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Offline jus4selling

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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #75 on: September 17, 2018, 10:47:24 pm »
Looking forward to the feedback from those of you installing these.

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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #76 on: September 18, 2018, 03:32:18 am »
Hi Mirko...I got mine in the mail today!  Thanks much.   Unfortunately I wont be much help as I don't have a reason to take the engine down yet.  But when I do it'll be going in.

Sorry for stupid question...but this uses the stock tension adjuster yes?

Cheers, Joe

yep u need to use stock or u can use that aftermarket manual.

...What I found also is that spring in adjuster is sometimes weaken by age. What I always do is I apply more force to adjuster with small rod/screwdriver from behind the adjuster... But I don't over force it! Thats important because to much force will over-tighten the chain.

Hopefully somebody will soon start using one :)
I'm waiting for the proper riveting tool.....won't be available until 9/20

U can buy those chains in already riveted state. But shops around the internet does not now the difference.

Looking forward to your tests ;)

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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2018, 09:04:26 am »
About cam chains. Earlier thread were old good Tsubaki Camellia, Yamiya(DID 219FTS) and DID 219FTH (open chain) are discussed.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,161838.msg1861067.html#msg1861067
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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #78 on: September 21, 2018, 06:58:52 am »
Messner, love the work as always and am very tempted to buy some of your goodies! 

Will any of CycleX's cam chains work?  Ken offers some nice hardware, wondering if it would work: http://www.cyclexchange.net/Engine%20Chains%20Page.htm
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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #79 on: September 21, 2018, 12:18:06 pm »
Messner, love the work as always and am very tempted to buy some of your goodies! 

Will any of CycleX's cam chains work?  Ken offers some nice hardware, wondering if it would work: http://www.cyclexchange.net/Engine%20Chains%20Page.htm

thanks!

cyclex chain will not work because it has 94 links. You need HD chain with 96 links.

the good thing is that HD chain with 96 links costs around 30$ (also HD chain with 94 links costs 25$ if you buy it directly from ebay)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CATENA-DI-DISTRIBUZIONE-DID-219FTH-96M-HUSQVARNA-350-TE-1990-1998/351761127274?epid=1658174043&hash=item51e698d76a%3Ag%3A8GcAAOSwzgRWua%7Ep&_sop=15&_sacat=0&_nkw=did+219+fth+96&_from=R40&rt=nc

or search it locally.... DID 219fth 96 links so you dont pay for shipping....

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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #80 on: September 21, 2018, 03:54:35 pm »

U can buy those chains in already riveted state. But shops around the internet does not now the difference.
Where can you get the endless 96 link chain Mirko?? I couldn't find any.
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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #81 on: September 22, 2018, 07:25:40 am »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DID-TIMING-CHAIN-ENDLESS-219fth-096-LE-/202238030419?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#shpCntId&shqty=1#shId

Already riveted chain should have LE in its name. But I am not sure 100%.I asked the seller to check will get back

... did not now that it is such a problem to rivet a chain. The guy who did it for me used really simple hand made tool and a hammer. Basically it was a bolt with small hole... He punched the pins lightly two times and that was that....


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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #82 on: September 22, 2018, 07:44:02 am »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DID-TIMING-CHAIN-ENDLESS-219fth-096-LE-/202238030419?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#shpCntId&shqty=1#shId

Already riveted chain should have LE in its name. But I am not sure 100%.I asked the seller to check will get back

... did not now that it is such a problem to rivet a chain. The guy who did it for me used really simple hand made tool and a hammer. Basically it was a bolt with small hole... He punched the pins lightly two times and that was that....
I have a factory KTM tool on its way to me right now. Some KTM's require an open cam chain. Tool looks to do a great job but it isn't cheap.
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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #84 on: September 22, 2018, 01:24:25 pm »
Well....I received the KTM cam chain tool today. It is really nice. There is a 2 face sliding block.....1 face sets the side plate to the proper depth while the other face puts a factory peen on the pins. Mint.
I'll get some pics tomorrow
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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #85 on: September 22, 2018, 04:28:39 pm »
Just riveted 2 chains. Didn't like the first one....my fault. Learning curve was steep and the second one is perfect. Great tool. Will redo the first one....master links are cheap.
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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #86 on: September 23, 2018, 06:09:18 pm »
Here is Mikes KTM tool







The rivet is like factory rivets





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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #87 on: September 23, 2018, 06:45:38 pm »
Thanks Andy. ;)
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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #88 on: September 24, 2018, 06:28:23 am »
Nice tool and nice chain;)

but riveting tool for 10$ would also work. There are some even for 5$....

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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #89 on: September 30, 2018, 05:00:19 pm »
Just some info. I got ome cam chain links from nimbus9020 on ebay. They are for DID. I got 3 hard nose and 1 soft, hollow point nose. The soft nose is an 219 FTS. The hard are 218 FTH. I think the H mean hard and the S means soft....keep in mind I am just guessing. They look exactly alike. I think the soft, hollow nose would be better suited for most guys (easier to expand with normal tools).
 The ebay fella is very good based on my experience.
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Re: High Performance Cam Chain tensioner for CB750(MessnerMoto)
« Reply #90 on: October 01, 2018, 01:53:29 am »
Mike

DID 219FTH and DID 219FTS are two different chains.

They are similar but there are some differences in properties.

FTS chain is little bit weaker but main difference is PIN diameter.... it is only for 0.01mm but there is a difference.

I would not mix fth chain with fts link ? Maybe I am wrong?

But I think FTS chain is also appropriate to be used and maybe there is 96 links already riveted version...


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