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Offline CarmOgden

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Clutch issues
« on: May 13, 2018, 03:15:04 PM »
Ok guys while I wait for parts for my electrical system I thought I would tackle the clutch. When I ride it’s all over the place. When adjusted well it engages too early and then when I ride in this condition it seems to slip, I can’t get it to fully lock up.

So I tore into it today and thought for sure I’d find a smoking gun but not so sure I did. Need some assistance.

Disc all look good, plates are a little brown at the bottom but no issues. Plates were not in the same direction, one small thing and I don’t have spring seat washers in the system, according to diagram I should.

Only other issue is the springs are to spec but not all the same size, only two are exactly spot on to a tenth.

Anybody see anything obvious that would cause this? I’ve been messing with my clutch for 8 months and it never really worked at its best.




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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2018, 03:52:33 PM »
You’ve an early style clutch there. I don’t see anything obviously wrong. Plates are approaching 50 years old. I would replace frictions & clutch springs. See how it goes after that.
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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2018, 03:55:43 PM »
You’ve an early style clutch there. I don’t see anything obviously wrong. Plates are approaching 50 years old. I would replace frictions & clutch springs. See how it goes after that.


Thanks disco. Just purchased the whole setup from cycle x. Had the same thoughts and decided it would be worth the price to see if age is the concern.

Any idea if the spring seats are a concern? I can’t seem to find them anywhere to purchase


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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2018, 03:58:11 PM »
You’ve an early style clutch there. I don’t see anything obviously wrong. Plates are approaching 50 years old. I would replace frictions & clutch springs. See how it goes after that.


Thanks disco. Just purchased the whole setup from cycle x. Had the same thoughts and decided it would be worth the price to see if age is the concern.

Any idea if the spring seats are a concern? I can’t seem to find them anywhere to purchase


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I take that last comment back, just found them on eBay and wow they are proud of them.


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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2018, 06:20:34 PM »
3rd pic it looks like you have some small burrs on the hub, from the plates. You might want to use a flat file to smooth those off.

Interesting oil lines!
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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2018, 06:23:04 PM »
3rd pic it looks like you have some small burrs on the hub, from the plates. You might want to use a flat file to smooth those off.

Interesting oil lines!

Gotcha, it is a bit rough.

Thanks, love my copper lines!


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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2018, 09:34:13 PM »
Ok one last question

Item #3 outer ring. Didn’t have that in there, should I have?

So far missing spring seats ( ordered ) and now that I look at it the outter ring...




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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2018, 04:08:00 AM »
Can’t help you out with #3. I’m pretty sure I don’t have it in my K2 either! Still works 👍
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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 07:46:17 PM »
Can’t help you out with #3. I’m pretty sure I don’t have it in my K2 either! Still works


Damnit! All was going well and then this.

So now I search and then wait for another shot at it.




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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 09:00:52 PM »
i'm guessing your swear vocabulary got a full and energetic work out there
i blame Terry

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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 10:34:06 PM »
Vintage bikes are good fun aren’t they?  ;)

When you re-assemble make you get the orientation of clutch hub (No 2) & pressure plate (No 7) correct or you’ll be also snapping the ‘ears’ off the clutch lifter. Of the 4 theorical possible positions, only 2 will actually allow the clutch hub & pressure plate to engage each other properly. Have a play around with the hub & pressure plate and you’ll soon work it out. Permanently mark the orientation with a centre punch or similar.

Check this out

https://wrenchandspanner.wordpress.com/2014/12/20/how-to-change-and-adjust-a-clutch-sohc/
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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2018, 12:58:10 PM »
i'm guessing your swear vocabulary got a full and energetic work out there

Oh I let it roll, no doubt.


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Re: Clutch issues
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2018, 12:59:06 PM »
Vintage bikes are good fun aren’t they?  ;)

When you re-assemble make you get the orientation of clutch hub (No 2) & pressure plate (No 7) correct or you’ll be also snapping the ‘ears’ off the clutch lifter. Of the 4 theorical possible positions, only 2 will actually allow the clutch hub & pressure plate to engage each other properly. Have a play around with the hub & pressure plate and you’ll soon work it out. Permanently mark the orientation with a centre punch or similar.

Check this out

https://wrenchandspanner.wordpress.com/2014/12/20/how-to-change-and-adjust-a-clutch-sohc/

Thanks disco. Once I get my eBay part in I’ll give her a shot again.


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