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Offline Sdsbassist

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Honda 305 speedo
« on: April 21, 2018, 05:24:32 PM »
So my speedo was making a very obnoxious whining noise and jumpy. Is not the drive or cable, was able to confirm that.

Disassembled the speedo, applied some 3 in 1 oil and now the noise is gone. However the speedo maxes out VERY quickly.

How does one calibrate an analog speedo?

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Re: Honda 305 speedo
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2018, 08:07:17 PM »
The only calibration is via the outer stop on the watchspring but that won't fix your problem, it is a very fine adjustment with a only few degrees of needle adjustment possible.
There is an "eddy current" coupler between the input shaft and the needle, the shaft rotates a magnet inside a metal cylinder causing electrical current in the cylinder which makes a magnetic field opposing the spinning magnet... and that causes a torque on the cylinder proportional to the shaft rpm: this pushes against the watchspring so the needle moves proportional to shaft rpm.
But: there is also a sleeve bearing in there mostly to keep the magnet centered. Two things can happen : the bearing lube gets gummy and the drag adds to the coupler torque, or the bushing wears and the shaft starts wobbling in it with a whining sound and a lot of added frictional torqe... this is pretty much always the cause of a falsely high reading and/or pinning tach or speedo. The hopeful fix is to wash out the bearing and apply a very light oil, clock oil is best but not so easy to find. And the coupler is devilishly hard to get at, disassembly of the mechanism is difficult without ruining the delicate watchspring. And after that, reassembly is a nightmare. Soaking the whole mechanism in acetone or other powerful solvent will clean out the bearing ... relubing is hard though. And you must remove the odometer wheels or the solvent will ruin them.
Some instruments also have a fluid damper to steady the needle... that's another kettle of fish. It dries out or leaks out (always store instruments with the face up!) and refilling them is also a challenge. But that doesn't cause crazy high readings, just a twitchy needle.
No surprise that many of the revived 60s bikes I see have new electronic instruments fitted.

Offline Sdsbassist

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Re: Honda 305 speedo
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2018, 08:09:56 PM »
I ended up doing a disassembly with a delicate cleaning.

Seemed to do the trick! 

The whine is gone and speedo works!

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Current Bike:  75 750F

Past bikes: 76 750K - "Iowa Blue",78 750K Craigslist find - "Black Beth;" 77 CB750K Basketcase, with a 75K engine; 1970 Cb750 K1, "Rosa Luxembourg"
74 cb750, 75 cb550, 77 kawa 650, 81 virago 750, 83 virago 920, 80 Honda Twinstar 200, 71 Honda CT70, 1971 Honda CB750 Rat Project "Black Dahlia Bitsa"

Offline brewsky

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Re: Honda 305 speedo
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2018, 01:55:05 AM »
Don't know which 305 you have, but I was able to calibrate my Dream by rotating the outer spring connection to change the tension as Bodi said.
The method is detailed here:
http://www.honda305.com/forums/speedo-calibration-t4842-10.html
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