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Tutorial on air/fuel mixture screw adjustments
« on: May 28, 2018, 11:31:53 AM »
I have a 1972 CB750 K2. It is running very well but I have a question about the proper way to "tune" the a/f mixture crews. I have read several accounts about adjusting the screws while listening to the idle speed, etc. It seems to me that between the four carbs it would be easy to get lost in the adjustment process.

How about a concise lesson in the proper way to make these adjustments for optimum running? I would be greatly interested in learning this lesson. Thanks.

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Re: Tutorial on air/fuel mixture screw adjustments
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2018, 03:40:36 PM »
Set them at 1.0 turn out after seating them gently. If the plugs come up dark after only 100 miles of this, turn them inward slightly: most of the seats have been opened up a little by previous seatings, so the 1.0 turn is often a little bit too much open. Further out is richer on the CB750: my own K2 has proven that for 40+ years, despite what the Internet has to say about these mixers.
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Re: Tutorial on air/fuel mixture screw adjustments
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2018, 06:15:31 PM »
Thanks Hondaman, appreciate the input.

Please see my other post, "Still getting one lean cylinder", that issue is making me bonkers!! Would love to get your opinion on that one.

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Re: Tutorial on air/fuel mixture screw adjustments
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2018, 10:21:10 PM »
A single light sparkplug can result from things like:
-the exhaust valve is leaking slightly (or has a guide that is more worn than the others, by a bunch).
-the carb's float is sticking (dimples on the tangs is this one's most common culprit), so it runs lower bowl than the others.
-the other cylinder on that coil is not getting as much spark (this one is 'hogging' the power, so to speak). Plug cap resistance, wire condition, or even (rare) a bad coil can do this one. My own 50 did this in 2007, with #2 always white and poor performance below 2000 and above 6000 RPM. A new coil fixed it up.
-likewise: jittering timing, most often seen on the 2-3 points from a bent spark advancer shaft, will make one of the 2 center ones lighter. Really bad ones that jitter time on 1-4 and 2-3 both will cause 2 lighter plugs.
-on hi-mileage engines/carbs (40k minimum, here), the needle jet may be oval, with the wide end toward the back of the carb: the NEXT cylinder in the firing order will show a lighter plug. This can happen if the carbs were cleaned and the needle jet installed backward from its previous position, and it was worn enough to become egg-shaped (wide toward the engine). While this is pretty esoteric, we are seeing it happens just because these bikes will GO that far...mine included. All 4 of mine were in poor shape at 128k miles, and cleaning them made it MUCH worse when I didn't align them all the same: I ended up taking them all out and turning them all around, then installed a smaller mainjet to fix it. Gotta replace them one day...
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