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Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« on: August 15, 2018, 10:11:29 AM »
Just curious - who has the oldest motorcycle on this forum?

Mine:
8/71 CB500K0
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1971 Red CB500K "Rhonda"

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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2018, 11:24:32 AM »
I can manage a 7/71 CB500. No in the 23000s. And only 4800 miles. Came with original tires, so changed the wheels when I used it.
Bryan on here can maybe manage the oldest 500, his avatar says no 1000036!

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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2018, 11:36:58 AM »
I have a 14 Harley Twin motor   not complete. .
 Had a 500 number sandcast..  but there are a few on here lower than that.
And a guyvthat has 2 Hondas from the 50,s..
 
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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2018, 02:04:34 PM »
If it's just Honda, I ride a '67 305 scrambler.  All stock and unrestored.  It was my first bike which I kept all these years.  Great memories with that bike!

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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2018, 02:10:20 PM »
Mine is still a juvenile, a 1978 CB400F2. I've tried to make it look older with image editing software!
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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2018, 03:08:08 PM »
1954 C11 BSA 250

i'd post a picture but i don't even like looking at it , why would anyone else
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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2018, 03:38:25 PM »
My oldest bike is a '66 Suzuki X6 Hustler
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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2018, 03:39:01 PM »
I've got a '65 Honda CT200 out in the garage.
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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2018, 03:57:54 PM »
  Black 1966 Honda S90 over here. The very old title shows a bank lien on it-- Oh Oh -hope it got paid off-   ;D

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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2018, 04:32:59 PM »
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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2018, 04:57:27 PM »
 Teracha has the 50,s Hondas.
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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2019, 11:07:42 AM »
Just finished up: 1918 2-Stroke Cleveland...... Made in U.S.A.!

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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2019, 11:10:31 AM »
Love it

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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2019, 12:24:25 PM »
I was going to brag about my 64 and 69 but gave up after seeing dates and bikes by other members

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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2019, 01:25:49 PM »
Mine's a relative youngster, my 75 400f. However, I do still ride it work every day, that must be worth a couple of bonus points.

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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2019, 03:20:40 PM »
Yup i still got no 36 awaiting re-rebuild after vandalism 2/71 from memory, had a 59 Triumph T110 years back if that counts.
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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2019, 03:37:35 PM »
You win BenelliSEI!   Looks great, can you give us more details on it?  Where'd you find, what did you do etc etc

Thanks for sharing
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2019, 05:43:06 PM »
More about the Cleveland. This is an early version, purchased at auction, by a friend of mine in Toronto. He collects WW1 vehicles and motorcycles. This one came from California. It came back to the USA, after WW1., with the American who rode it, as a Dispatcher. The story goes that not long afterwards, the fellow passed away in an unfortunate accident (not on the motorcycle). The bike was stored in a coal cellar, and remained there until a few years ago! When we picked it up from the shipping Company in Detroit, it was as “black as coal”. Tires were so dry rotted, they literally fell of the rims, BUT, the machine was totally complete.
    One spoke (rear) was missing, no throttle lever or cable, and the grips had rotted off. I stripped down the carb, set the remote float height, cleaned the spark plug, tied in a remote fuel tank (premix for the two stroke) and it fired second kick!!
     I stripped it down to the last piece, carefully cleaned and detailed every part. Hand filed and redressed every nut and bolt, before having them yellow cad plated. The only parts replaced where a few washers, two bolts, throttle cable (I stripped off the plastic sheathing from an old Honda choke cable and it looks exactly like the original) and the throttle lever is a British replica part. I bead blasted the chrome on it, just too shiny........
       The seat is the original (many “hide food” applications to soften). The horse hair stuffing is still packed in the underside. The chain was manufactured by Cleveland and every link plate is stamped with their name. It sat in rustremover for months, shaken regularly. Brushed it clean, soaked in paraffin, and back on. At one point the original rider made a small wooden rubbing block, fitted under the chain. I cleaned it up and wired it right back. He’d also managed to lose the gas tank cap and replaced it with a well made, wooden stopper. Sanded, varnished and put it right back!
        The original bike had no air cleaner. The cleverly installed intake “mud shield” is actually a front axle cap from a Model T, stamped “FORD”. I put that right back too. A friend’s son, who builds racing bicycles, manufactured a replacement spoke, and did the paintwork. When I pulled the engine apart, I could find nothing to replace. Hand cut a few gaskets, and put it all back together. The rear band brake (no front) got a new piece of material, from a British supplier, rivitted in.
        The engine is a piece of clever engineering. The connecting rod attaches directly to a flywheel (on an offset pin). The flywheel hangs on the end of a shaft that passes through the gearbox. High gear is sort of direct drive, low gear engages through a set of drop gears, lower in the housing. The magneto is out the back of the engine , behind the differential that drives the output sprocket. The diff is unique in that the crown gear is not driven by a pinion. The main through shaft has a worm gear machines into it, that rotates the crown. Unlike many small motorcycles of the time. The Cleveland has a multi plate clutch, between the crown gear and the output sprocket.
         Controls are a joy. The long lever on the left, operates the clutch. It has an adjustable “drag feature” so it stays where you set it. Pull it back to disengage, drop into LOW gear with the right side foot pedal. As you add a bit of throttle, move the clutch handle forward to engage, then all the way forward. Throttle control is with the small lever on the right handlebar. Foot (rear) brake is on the left. And that’s it! To engage high gear, throttle back a bit, toe it into HIGH gear and carry on. When coming to a stop, just throttle back and pull back the clutch lever. Back into LOW and off you go again.
          The “tool box” that hangs below the fuel tank, was missing the lid. I took a mold of the other side (identical to the end caps on the fuel tank) and made one in fibre glass...... bit of a cheat, but hey! I’ve added a pic of the left side, for those that want to see all the detail. By the way, it weighs about 120lbs and will cruise at 35-40 MPH all day. It’s 101 years old and has been “retired”.

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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2019, 05:18:41 PM »
Side note -  if you live in the northeast you have to visit the Motorcyclepedia Museum in Newburg NY . Over 600 motorcycles , very cool place and nice folks. Worth the trip.

http://www.motorcyclepediamuseum.org/
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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2019, 06:55:27 PM »
my old fart bike is a 1954 BSA C11G , 250cc of throbbing sod all...

it'd been through the hands of a few friends til it ended up with my dad who was going to restore it as a retirement project then he up and died, the bastard...

someone must have loved it in the past, under the sh1t and grime it had a purple metalflake frame...

its got a brand new motor and box now, a jap front end ( a CB250RS front end went straight in) and one day i might finish it

problem is it will never be any use on the road, way too slow and small, might look nice in the corner of the garage though
i blame Terry

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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2019, 07:30:55 AM »
Fantastic summary on the Cleveland.  Thanks.

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Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2019, 10:38:27 AM »
Side note -  if you live in the northeast you have to visit the Motorcyclepedia Museum in Newburg NY . Over 600 motorcycles , very cool place and nice folks. Worth the trip.

http://www.motorcyclepediamuseum.org/
Thanks @johans.  I had a look at the website and they have a lot of unique bikes.  Would be well worth a visit.

Btw, one of their instagram posts shows a 1919 Cleveland almost identical to the one posted by @BenelliSEl


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Re: Whose got the oldest motorcycle?
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2019, 02:23:03 PM »
More about the Cleveland. This is an early version, purchased at auction, by a friend of mine in Toronto. He collects WW1 vehicles and motorcycles. This one came from California. It came back to the USA, after WW1., with the American who rode it, as a Dispatcher. The story goes that not long afterwards, the fellow passed away in an unfortunate accident (not on the motorcycle). The bike was stored in a coal cellar, and remained there until a few years ago! When we picked it up from the shipping Company in Detroit, it was as “black as coal”. Tires were so dry rotted, they literally fell of the rims, BUT, the machine was totally complete.
    One spoke (rear) was missing, no throttle lever or cable, and the grips had rotted off. I stripped down the carb, set the remote float height, cleaned the spark plug, tied in a remote fuel tank (premix for the two stroke) and it fired second kick!!
     I stripped it down to the last piece, carefully cleaned and detailed every part. Hand filed and redressed every nut and bolt, before having them yellow cad plated. The only parts replaced where a few washers, two bolts, throttle cable (I










stripped off the plastic sheathing from an old Honda choke cable and it looks exactly like the original) and the throttle lever is a British replica part. I bead blasted the chrome on it, just too shiny........
       The seat is the original (many “hide food” applications to soften). The horse hair stuffing is still packed in the underside. The chain was manufactured by Cleveland and every link plate is stamped with their name. It sat in rustremover for months, shaken regularly. Brushed it clean, soaked in paraffin, and back on. At one point the original rider made a small wooden rubbing block, fitted under the chain. I cleaned it up and wired it right back. He’d also managed to lose the gas tank cap and replaced it with a well made, wooden stopper. Sanded, varnished and put it right back!
        The original bike had no air cleaner. The cleverly installed intake “mud shield” is actually a front axle cap from a Model T, stamped “FORD”. I put that right back too. A friend’s son, who builds racing bicycles, manufactured a replacement spoke, and did the paintwork. When I pulled the engine apart, I could find nothing to replace. Hand cut a few gaskets, and put it all back together. The rear band brake (no front) got a new piece of material, from a British supplier, rivitted in.
        The engine is a piece of clever engineering. The connecting rod attaches directly to a flywheel (on an offset pin). The flywheel hangs on the end of a shaft that passes through the gearbox. High gear is sort of direct drive, low gear engages through a set of drop gears, lower in the housing. The magneto is out the back of the engine , behind the differential that drives the output sprocket. The diff is unique in that the crown gear is not driven by a pinion. The main through shaft has a worm gear machines into it, that rotates the crown. Unlike many small motorcycles of the time. The Cleveland has a multi plate clutch, between the crown gear and the output sprocket.
         Controls are a joy. The long lever on the left, operates the clutch. It has an adjustable “drag feature” so it stays where you set it. Pull it back to disengage, drop into LOW gear with the right side foot pedal. As you add a bit of throttle, move the clutch handle forward to engage, then all the way forward. Throttle control is with the small lever on the right handlebar. Foot (rear) brake is on the left. And that’s it! To engage high gear, throttle back a bit, toe it into HIGH gear and carry on. When coming to a stop, just throttle back and pull back the clutch lever. Back into LOW and off you go again.
          The “tool box” that hangs below the fuel tank, was missing the lid. I took a mold of the other side (identical to the end caps on the fuel tank) and made one in fibre glass...... bit of a cheat, but hey! I’ve added a pic of the left side, for those that want to see all the detail. By the way, it weighs about 120lbs and will cruise at 35-40 MPH all day. It’s 101 years old and has been “retired”.


Yup, Winner Winner Chicken Dinner. Great story and a great restoration, thanks for sharing. You got any other cards up your sleeve?
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2019, 02:43:00 PM »
Fantastic summary on the Cleveland.  Thanks.

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