Author Topic: Terry's Kawasaki Z1000 Mad Max Bike, my er, 2020 summer project. (Read 39372 times)

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #200 on:** February 03, 2020, 02:05:40 AM »

Damn! Quite a transformation! Sucks about that cut off crankshaft...if only you had checked a bit earlier.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #201 on:** February 03, 2020, 12:44:55 PM »

Thanks Sean, yeah I'm 'rapt with the look, just how I magined it. The crank doesnt bother me, it was a race bike, so not really unexpected, and I can always redneck a belt driven alternator off something modern in the place previously filled by the starter motor, if necessary.

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #202 on:** February 03, 2020, 12:53:48 PM »

#$%* man, seems like it would be easier to swap in a new crank...and that isn't very easy.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #203 on:** February 03, 2020, 01:24:38 PM »

Nah, it's all good fun mate, but as I now have a crank, bored cases, Arias 1428cc block and pistons an d another ported GPZ1100 head I don't need much to build a monster engine to throw straight in. The current engine will be fine running a total loss ignition (or one of my ARD magnetos) so no biggie, I'll be having some scary fun either way.

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #204 on:** February 03, 2020, 03:21:06 PM »

ard would allow you to run without battery? or, at least, only use the battery for lighting? then isn't there some big ass condensor meant for brit bikes that will allow total batteryless operation? If so, I would use the ARD.

I have not heard of anyone attempting to run those 1428's any more than a quarter mile at a time...

PeWe · « **Reply #205 on:** February 03, 2020, 09:06:13 PM »

Add a propeller on a generator up front that can charge the battery. You need to keep up the speed to keep it charging.

You might find a crank. The dragbike guys might have one to trade with your cut one?

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #206 on:** February 04, 2020, 03:31:35 AM »

Thanks guys, the 1428 will have an alternator and an oil cooler, so will be no more of an issue than someone running an RC or Mike Reick big block on a CB750, probably less mechanical stress considering how over engineered these Kawasaki engines are compared to a CB750, and of course I won't be flogging it.(much)

I only need battery power for ignition and lights/blinkers while riding around town, and luckily I'm only 5 minutes from my favourite country roads, so I should get several hours riding time out of my new motobatt battery, then just recharge it between rides. I might install a little volt meter like Pers to monitor battery usage, but if it all gets too much, I'll dust off the ARD. I've got 2 of them, so should have enough bits to make 1 good one. ; D

PeWe · « **Reply #207 on:** February 04, 2020, 05:28:12 AM »

You forgot to mention that it will be no problem reaching over 150hp on the wheel and lots of torque!

web · « **Reply #208 on:** February 04, 2020, 11:40:04 AM »

Just install one of these

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #209 on:** February 04, 2020, 11:46:08 AM »

Quote from: web on February 04, 2020, 11:40:04 AM

Just install one of these

Ha ha, don't worry mate, I thought about that too! I can not believe that electric vehicle makers don't have generators fitted to their stupid battery powered vehicles, those things worked well enough for me when I was young and fit! Can you still buy them?

web · « **Reply #210 on:** February 04, 2020, 12:00:44 PM »

See? It's even period correct!

Although around here in bicycle land, surprisingly you can indeed still buy them in all sorts of shapes and sizes...

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #211 on:** February 04, 2020, 02:33:01 PM »

They look great mate. I've been thinking about converting a small dc motor into a generator and mounting it under the starter motor cover. Theres a hole in the end of the crank that I could tap a thread in, attach a pulley and run a gilmer drive belt to the generator, via a regulator, to the battery? I'll have to consult with some boffins here, but it might be doable?

Tintop · « **Reply #212 on:** February 04, 2020, 04:23:19 PM »

Terry check out Rob's (Voxonda) set-up on his endurance bike. Belt driven alternator off the crank.

BPellerine · « **Reply #213 on:** February 04, 2020, 04:30:41 PM »

maybe use one of the alternators off the later fours that had them behind the engine?bill

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #214 on:** February 05, 2020, 02:40:20 AM »

Yep, that's what I'm thinking guys, but keeping in mind an engine will run for a long time just off a battery (especially with "Kick start only") so I should still get my 100 mile rides in, which is plenty for an`old cripple like me. I'll take my little lithium jump battery with me, just in case, but a belt driven alternator will be a cool engineering exercise. Does anyone here have an Evinrude(?) 4 cylinder magneto? I'd love to fab an open belt magneto ignition, my`type 3 ARD isn't all that "elegant"...........

web · « **Reply #215 on:** February 05, 2020, 05:40:25 AM »

Sounds like the ideal use for a lithium battery... Without an alternator/regulator to worry about. Who cares about an alternator if you have enough juice for any practical ride.

You might want an LED headlight though, for permanent battery power use.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #216 on:** February 05, 2020, 11:24:49 AM »

Thanks mate, luckily we abandoned compulsory "lights on" laws here a few years ago as they made no difference to tfhe numbers of fatal collisions and discriminated against motorcycles, so I rarely have my lights on during daylight hours, and if necessary I could install modern battery powered bicycle lights somewhere out of the way if I got caught out occasionally.

I do love redneck engineering though, so a belt driven alternator or generator tucked away where my electric starter motor used to live interests me, as does a magneto.

Of course all of this will become redundant when I build my 1428 engine.

BPellerine · « **Reply #217 on:** February 05, 2020, 05:10:26 PM »

terry,I had a 1960 velocette single,they had a generator driven by a simple v belt on the front of the engine,crude but cool at the same time,I like my ard on my 750 maybe not state of the art but it works and looks vintage.bill

Tintop · « **Reply #218 on:** February 05, 2020, 05:20:05 PM »

You should be able to find something in this Terry, that gets your DIY juices flowing. The Fairbanks Morse ones look interesting.

http://www.rebuiltmags.com/stock.php

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #219 on:** February 05, 2020, 05:20:51 PM »

Thanks Bill, I love your ARD and wish I had one just like it. Mine are the later versions and not as cool looking, I'll post a pic when I get home. I do have an old Fairbanks-Morse tractor magneto somewhere so I suppose I could use that, but I saw one that someone had mad e with a 4 cylinder outboard magneto and it looked really good. I won't worry too much though, the 1428cc engine will have full electrics.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #220 on:** February 05, 2020, 05:24:21 PM »

Quote from: Tintop on February 05, 2020, 05:20:05 PM

You should be able to find something in this Terry, that gets your DIY juices flowing.

http://www.rebuiltmags.com/stock.php

Wow, great minds (well, yours is great, and mine is only so-so) think alike! Thanks Brian, the prices are pretty good too!

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #221 on:** February 06, 2020, 02:30:35 AM »

Well I was gonna post about how I've now replaced all of those "prone to rust" Unbrako bolts with shiny new zinc plated metric fine bolts tonight, but as is usually the case with my cluttered mind, I became side tracked. I went to replace the bolt that anchored the Delkevic exhaust, and then while the bolt was out I jacked the pipe up (with a jack) and realised that I could lift the whole deal almost 2 inches with it not touching anything underneath, so went from this:

Monday Zed magic 3 Feb 2020 3 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

To this:

Terry's Zed Pipe lift 2 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

It might not look like much, but it somehow appeals to my OCD. Another look:

Terry's Zed Pipe lift by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

After I cut the bracket and drilled a new hole:

Terry's Zed Pipe lift 1 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Then I remembered that I'd said I'd post a pic of my ARD. Here's several:

Terry's Zed ARD Magneto by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Terry's Zed ARD Magneto 4 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Terry's Zed ARD Magneto 3 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Terry's Zed ARD Magneto 2 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Actually the more I look at it, the more I like it, is this like Stockholm Syndrome? I've disliked it for so long, now I like it? Who knows, us semi-humans are complicated folk, but hey, if it gets me home, it might be a good thing? I'm not sure if it has a variable advance unlike the older ARD's, as I really haven't explored it. The belt is missing, and so is the rotor button, but it's doable, so I'll hold it in reserve as another option.

OK, as has been happening every evening this week, I've fallen asleep and now I need to take some extra strong drugs and go to bed. More tomorrow.

PeWe · « **Reply #222 on:** February 06, 2020, 09:17:38 AM »

The 4-1 has a nicer fitment now, look tougher !
A friend of mine has a new 4-1 as yours to his CB750. It look really good for that price!
Look to cost almost double.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #223 on:** February 06, 2020, 11:22:38 AM »

Thanks Per, I bought it because I really like the Delkevic I bought for my K2 "Bitsa", and the exhaust note was excellent after 2 years of popping and farting with my old system.

This bike sounded pretty tough with the previous pipe, so this is more about aesthetics, I just hope it's as good.

BPellerine · « **Reply #224 on:** February 06, 2020, 05:02:02 PM »

looks like that mag would be easier to set up with the points out where you can see them,mine are inboard,Frank has a mag that was made in the way you describe I think,with the head towards the front of the engine.people around here do not know what it is untill I tell them,they do not notice the extended swingarm,but stop at the ard and webers to take a second look,bill

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