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Offline jas67

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1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« on: September 12, 2018, 03:08:28 am »
I recently missed out on a white 1984 Le Mans III, but, sometime as one door closes, another opens.
A good friend of mine got wind of a Mk1 Le Mans available for sale and passed it on to me!

It arrived this evening!

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Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1974 CB350 Four (project)
1968 CL175 (4 of 'em, two are projects)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1976 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2004 749 track beast, 1968 Monza 250
Moto Guzzi: 2014 V7 Special, 2013 V7 Racer Record, 1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado
Yamaha WR250R (2015)
Kawasaki W650 (2000)

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2018, 03:15:53 pm »
Nice, I love Guzzis. I'll learn one eventually
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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2018, 03:44:05 pm »
Take it on a cross country ride....you can sleep in one of the carbs at night. ;) ;D
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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2018, 04:19:44 pm »
Thats a beauty, congrats!  A buddy of mine has a '75, I admire it every time I see it and think to myself I want one!

Does it run as good as it looks?
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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2018, 04:31:25 pm »
Does it run as good as it looks?


I don't know yet, haven't started it -- needs a battery.   It's been sitting a couple years, so, the carbs might need cleaned.   I just ordered an Odyssey battery for it, hopefully it gets here bike the weekend.


Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1974 CB350 Four (project)
1968 CL175 (4 of 'em, two are projects)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1976 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2004 749 track beast, 1968 Monza 250
Moto Guzzi: 2014 V7 Special, 2013 V7 Racer Record, 1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado
Yamaha WR250R (2015)
Kawasaki W650 (2000)

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2018, 06:00:58 pm »
well done, looks like its been looked after but be prepared for italian electrical goodness.....
and here was me thinking I'd kicked the honda habit........silly me

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2018, 06:33:39 pm »
well done, looks like its been looked after but be prepared for italian electrical goodness.....

Not my first vintage Italian bike.   ::)

In fact, my Ducati Monza is having some electrical issues right now.
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1974 CB350 Four (project)
1968 CL175 (4 of 'em, two are projects)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1976 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2004 749 track beast, 1968 Monza 250
Moto Guzzi: 2014 V7 Special, 2013 V7 Racer Record, 1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado
Yamaha WR250R (2015)
Kawasaki W650 (2000)

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2018, 07:01:11 pm »
Man, I'm jealous! I've wanted a MK1 LM ever since I sat on one at the dealers back in 1979! Fantastic bike, quite small in stature, but excellent handling and brakes, and good top end speed. You would have been disappointed with the Mk3, especially with that stupid 16 inch front wheel, my mate Pete had a Mk3 and a Mk5, and couldn't get rid of them fast enough! He had a great T3 that he took up to MK1 LM specs and it was a beautiful bike, but the later (post Mk2) LM's were not as nice as the early ones. Congrats! ;D 
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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2018, 10:30:06 pm »
looks great, congratulations! i've always had a soft spot for these.

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2018, 09:57:19 am »
Have you ever rode one of these? If not, the torque steer will be quite a surprise. It turned me off of them definitely. :o
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1974 CB350F -218 orig miles, sold
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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2018, 10:00:06 am »
Have you ever rode one of these? If not, the torque steer will be quite a surprise. It turned me off of them definitely. :o

Not a Lemans specifically, but, I've already got three Guzzis (and have owned several others), the Eldorado's 850cc is basically the same lump in a lower state of tune, but, with the same heavy flywheel.    I also have two pre-1981 airheads (the 1980 and earlier ones have heavier flywheels than 1981-1995), and owned and ridden a few later ones too.    It really is no big deal.
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1974 CB350 Four (project)
1968 CL175 (4 of 'em, two are projects)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1976 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2004 749 track beast, 1968 Monza 250
Moto Guzzi: 2014 V7 Special, 2013 V7 Racer Record, 1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado
Yamaha WR250R (2015)
Kawasaki W650 (2000)

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2018, 06:49:18 am »
Torque steer is an "acquired feel", I experienced  it on my brothers 1100 Yamaha, no big deal.
'74 "Big Bang" Honda 750K [836].....'71 Honda 750K project.....'76 Honda 550F.....K3 Park Racer.....K5 Fiddy Dolla Special!......CB500 Fiddy Dolla Special too!!............plus plus plus.........

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2018, 05:17:39 pm »
Sure, no big deal....unless you are leaning into a turn and blip the throttle and the bike comes back up.... ::) ;D ;D
1973 CB350F -sold
1974 CB350F -218 orig miles, sold
1976 CB750K - in restoration

Other Hondas:
3 x CBX
CB1100R
GB500
Plus Kawasakis, BMws & Ducatis

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2018, 05:59:53 pm »
Guzzis were/are very popular in Australia. My Classic Italian motorcycle club currently has 41 Le Mans on Historic registration...




...we also have 5 CBX's (including my "imaginary" one)   ;D
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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2018, 06:07:45 pm »
Sure, no big deal....unless you are leaning into a turn and blip the throttle and the bike comes back up.... ::) ;D ;D

It's never been a problem, and I've ridden them pretty hard.
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1974 CB350 Four (project)
1968 CL175 (4 of 'em, two are projects)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1976 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2004 749 track beast, 1968 Monza 250
Moto Guzzi: 2014 V7 Special, 2013 V7 Racer Record, 1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado
Yamaha WR250R (2015)
Kawasaki W650 (2000)

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2018, 06:08:31 pm »
Guzzis were/are very popular in Australia. My Classic Italian motorcycle club currently has 41 Le Mans on Historic registration...




...we also have 5 CBX's (including my "imaginary" one)   ;D

Wow!   That's a lot of Le Mans!

What's an "imaginary" CBX?
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1974 CB350 Four (project)
1968 CL175 (4 of 'em, two are projects)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1976 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2004 749 track beast, 1968 Monza 250
Moto Guzzi: 2014 V7 Special, 2013 V7 Racer Record, 1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado
Yamaha WR250R (2015)
Kawasaki W650 (2000)

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2018, 07:35:14 pm »
Sure, no big deal....unless you are leaning into a turn and blip the throttle and the bike comes back up.... ::) ;D ;D

It's never been a problem, and I've ridden them pretty hard.

Yep, what a load of bullsh1t, old Guzzi's are no worse than rattly old BMW R series airheads, and handle way better, with better brakes! I've owned 5 airheads, and none of them were better rides than your MK1 mate. ;D
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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2018, 07:40:28 pm »
One of the most entertaining bikes I ever rode was a Mk II California Guzzi, absolutely loved it and the only time the engine rev/ flopping to one side occurred was at the lights and that was just amusing.
My mate that owns it lives way too far away to pop round for a play and has now retired it to the back of the shed in favour of a modern Bonneville
and here was me thinking I'd kicked the honda habit........silly me

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2018, 10:32:47 pm »
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What's an "imaginary" CBX?

A member here didn't believe I actually owned one, because I said you didn't need to tip the motor forward to adjust the valves.  I had to resort to providing photographic proof of valve cover removal without motor tipping...  henceforth, I will refer to my CBX as "imaginary"!
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1976 Moto Morini 3 1/2 Sport
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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2018, 12:47:44 am »
One of the most entertaining bikes I ever rode was a Mk II California Guzzi, absolutely loved it and the only time the engine rev/ flopping to one side occurred was at the lights and that was just amusing.
My mate that owns it lives way too far away to pop round for a play and has now retired it to the back of the shed in favour of a modern Bonneville

Sounds like you need to rescue it from him.
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1974 CB350 Four (project)
1968 CL175 (4 of 'em, two are projects)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1976 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2004 749 track beast, 1968 Monza 250
Moto Guzzi: 2014 V7 Special, 2013 V7 Racer Record, 1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado
Yamaha WR250R (2015)
Kawasaki W650 (2000)

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2018, 04:10:54 am »
Have thought about it before
and here was me thinking I'd kicked the honda habit........silly me

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Re: 1977 Moto Guzzi Le Mans
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2018, 07:05:19 am »

Yep, what a load of bullsh1t, old Guzzi's are no worse than rattly old BMW R series airheads, and handle way better, with better brakes! I've owned 5 airheads, and none of them were better rides than your MK1 mate. ;D

The bullsh1t is all yours, Terry. I have a "rattly old" BMW R100S and it has absolutely no torque steer. The Guzzi's massive torque steer is a well-known fact in the community. Maybe the ones sold in Australia have the two cylinders working in opposite direction to cancel this out. Or is it, because you are driving on the wrong side of the road? ;D ;D My personal experience on a LeMans was so bad that I decided I would never own one.
1973 CB350F -sold
1974 CB350F -218 orig miles, sold
1976 CB750K - in restoration

Other Hondas:
3 x CBX
CB1100R
GB500
Plus Kawasakis, BMws & Ducatis

 

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