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« Reply #35700 on: January 29, 2011, 08:23:45 AM »
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Didn't you guys just bankrupt half the world..... :P

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« Reply #35701 on: January 29, 2011, 11:13:54 AM »
I gotta get something tasty for my linner snack.
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« Reply #35702 on: January 29, 2011, 11:44:57 AM »
I blame Apple and the internet for our country falling into......what it is. I heard that our education system is rated 50th in the world??? WTF. Some kid in India is working an 8 hour shift, going to school.....The baby boomers and their hippy yuppie children made us soft. ;D

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« Reply #35703 on: January 29, 2011, 12:44:35 PM »
I blame Apple and the internet for our country falling into......what it is. I heard that our education system is rated 50th in the world??? WTF. Some kid in India is working an 8 hour shift, going to school.....The baby boomers and their hippy yuppie children made us soft. ;D
Nah, dude.  The laws of physics dictate that an object at rest tends to stay at rest.  They also dictate that if a mother#$%*er wants to eat, he's got to get up and feed himself.  Here in America, it's not so hard to drive to get some calories and we #$%* if the dishes aren't clean at the restaurant.  Elsewhere, people still have to work for food and so on.  The fact that we have it so good dictate that we want it easier.  Remember when we had to get up to change the channel on the TV or had to flip the cassette.  We just make everything easier and easier and over time we get fat and lazy.  I can talk about it today since I shoveled off my roof.  Any other day I'm looking for a way out of work just like everybody else. 
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« Reply #35704 on: January 29, 2011, 12:49:21 PM »


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« Reply #35705 on: January 29, 2011, 12:51:41 PM »
I blame Apple and the internet for our country falling into......what it is. I heard that our education system is rated 50th in the world??? WTF. Some kid in India is working an 8 hour shift, going to school.....The baby boomers and their hippy yuppie children made us soft. ;D

I'm with Dustreel. Education may not be what it could be, but there's no stinkin' way we're 50th or even close to it. When I hear that we're 50th in the world, I hear the NEA asking for more money. Also, when comparing anything across countries, it's never apples to apples. Well, sometimes it's apples to horse apples. Worse, lots of countries pad their stats in ways we don't.

The US is still far and away the best place for innovation and entrepreneurship. This doesn't happen with an educational system that ranks 50th in the world.

Let me sum up. If edumucation were so bad here, would anyone in this country be smart enough to post to the Dive Bar?
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« Reply #35706 on: January 29, 2011, 12:58:35 PM »
in most countries that rank above us, if your not in the top 10% they kick you out after 8th grade and put you to work, here we count EVERYBODY regardless of desire, income, intelligence motivation or defect.

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« Reply #35707 on: January 29, 2011, 01:11:13 PM »
raef's right, and that's an apples thing. The comparison being made is our students versus their students, when in truth it should be our kids against their kids.

The same is true of health care statistics. European countries don't count all live births as live births (as we do). European nations don't count very early preemies as live births. We do. What's more, we have more of them because of the use of fertility drugs here. Factor those out, and our infant mortality rate is about that of Norway's, which has one of the lowest rates in Europe.

When you hear that the US is lagging way, way behind other countries, ask yourself why people are literally dying to get here -- besides nekked chicks with US flag bodypaint.
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« Reply #35708 on: January 29, 2011, 01:28:16 PM »
Remember that in socialist countries like China they tend to be a little dodgy with their stats to attempt to show how 'superior' they are to us. It is a little easier to juke the numbers over there than it is here- transparency is a #$%* with democracy that way.

Last time I checked they were still copying our designs for stealth fighter jets and just about everything else.

When was the last time you saw an original design of anything come out of China that we in the states wanted?
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« Reply #35710 on: January 29, 2011, 02:31:26 PM »
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Re: The South Side Dive Bar
« Reply #35711 on: January 29, 2011, 02:37:22 PM »
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Didn't you guys just bankrupt half the world..... :P

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« Reply #35712 on: January 29, 2011, 03:32:53 PM »
I blame Apple and the internet for our country falling into......what it is. I heard that our education system is rated 50th in the world??? WTF. Some kid in India is working an 8 hour shift, going to school.....The baby boomers and their hippy yuppie children made us soft. ;D

I'm with Dustreel. Education may not be what it could be, but there's no stinkin' way we're 50th or even close to it. When I hear that we're 50th in the world, I hear the NEA asking for more money. Also, when comparing anything across countries, it's never apples to apples. Well, sometimes it's apples to horse apples. Worse, lots of countries pad their stats in ways we don't.

The US is still far and away the best place for innovation and entrepreneurship. This doesn't happen with an educational system that ranks 50th in the world.

Let me sum up. If edumucation were so bad here, would anyone in this country be smart enough to post to the Dive Bar?

Sorry Burma but thats just your opinion and a very American one at that......Your education stinks compared to most countries i know of, we get drowned with American TV and some of the #$%* we see is mind boggling. Some of the questions i have been asked since i started frequenting forums on the net are just plain #$%*ing stupid and it surprises me none that you guys are 50th in the world. Generally most Americans know #$%* all about their own country let alone what happens in the rest of the world mate. Ever watched Judge Judy, man i have seen some of the dumbest people on the planet on that show, even business men that are absolutely clueless and live in a false reality because of their poor education. I would go as far as saying that Most Aussies and Kiwi's would probably know more about America and American history than a large number of Americans because thats what we were taught at school. I have found generally that most Americans naturally assume that they6 are superior and this ridiculous notion is partly responsible for the situation you find yourselves in, also the fact that Republicans hate everything State controlled like hospitals and schools, health care, so the public schools are under funded, besides thats probably what your #$%*ed up governments want because an ignorant population is easier to control....Knowledge is power after all....Look at where you sit internationally at health care and various other things as well....Not too good for a "super power" Feed the dummies bull#$%* propaganda and they will come a running.......
No offence meant at all, it just surprises me that you guys are so blind to it, and i am sick of hearing, "oh it can't be because we are America, the best country on the planet"......some of you need to get out more often.... ;) ;D


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« Reply #35713 on: January 29, 2011, 03:37:25 PM »
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« Reply #35714 on: January 29, 2011, 03:44:39 PM »
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90778/90860/7224965.html  :P
But where did they get the technology to build the components?

Who cares, they were smart enough to make it and sell it back to you. We have had solar hot water systems for over 40 years and they are now compulsory in some places. We have a huge solar scheme here as well and where i live it is very common now to see solar panels on the roof and, now you mention it Australia and Japan are at the forefront of solar technology and have been for a long while....Look up "sickle cell solar technology....solar tech for the future..... ;)

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« Reply #35715 on: January 29, 2011, 04:17:20 PM »
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90778/90860/7224965.html  :P
But where did they get the technology to build the components?

If you kept asking that question it'd trace back to modern day Ethiopia.
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« Reply #35716 on: January 29, 2011, 04:29:04 PM »
I blame Apple and the internet for our country falling into......what it is. I heard that our education system is rated 50th in the world??? WTF. Some kid in India is working an 8 hour shift, going to school.....The baby boomers and their hippy yuppie children made us soft. ;D

I'm with Dustreel. Education may not be what it could be, but there's no stinkin' way we're 50th or even close to it. When I hear that we're 50th in the world, I hear the NEA asking for more money. Also, when comparing anything across countries, it's never apples to apples. Well, sometimes it's apples to horse apples. Worse, lots of countries pad their stats in ways we don't.

The US is still far and away the best place for innovation and entrepreneurship. This doesn't happen with an educational system that ranks 50th in the world.

Let me sum up. If edumucation were so bad here, would anyone in this country be smart enough to post to the Dive Bar?

Sorry Burma but thats just your opinion and a very American one at that......Your education stinks compared to most countries i know of, we get drowned with American TV and some of the #$%* we see is mind boggling. Some of the questions i have been asked since i started frequenting forums on the net are just plain #$%*ing stupid and it surprises me none that you guys are 50th in the world. Generally most Americans know #$%* all about their own country let alone what happens in the rest of the world mate. Ever watched Judge Judy, man i have seen some of the dumbest people on the planet on that show, even business men that are absolutely clueless and live in a false reality because of their poor education. I would go as far as saying that Most Aussies and Kiwi's would probably know more about America and American history than a large number of Americans because thats what we were taught at school. I have found generally that most Americans naturally assume that they6 are superior and this ridiculous notion is partly responsible for the situation you find yourselves in, also the fact that Republicans hate everything State controlled like hospitals and schools, health care, so the public schools are under funded, besides thats probably what your #$%*ed up governments want because an ignorant population is easier to control....Knowledge is power after all....Look at where you sit internationally at health care and various other things as well....Not too good for a "super power" Feed the dummies bull#$%* propaganda and they will come a running.......
No offence meant at all, it just surprises me that you guys are so blind to it, and i am sick of hearing, "oh it can't be because we are America, the best country on the planet"......some of you need to get out more often.... ;) ;D


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Mick, if Aussies get drowned with American TV then that means Aussies are entertained by it and your programming is just keeping up with demand., sheesh, even an American can figure that out.
Your education must not be so great if you can't.  ???

If you judge the American people based on lame TV shows, I'd say you know nothing about the media or the American people.

  "No offence"      Did you learn to spell from watching Judge Judy?

Offense taken.

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« Reply #35717 on: January 29, 2011, 04:33:20 PM »

Mick, if Aussies get drowned with American TV then that means Aussies are entertained by it and your programming is just keeping up with demand., sheesh, even an American can figure that out.
Your education must not be so great if you can't.  ???

If you judge the American people based on lame TV shows, I'd say you know nothing about the media or the American people.

  "No offence"      Did you learn to spell from watching Judge Judy?

Offense taken.

#$%* off mate!
 

Easy there.  Again you are proving that we Americans are ignorant.  There are more than one way to spell words like offense, not just the American way.

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« Reply #35718 on: January 29, 2011, 04:46:30 PM »
I blame Apple and the internet for our country falling into......what it is. I heard that our education system is rated 50th in the world??? WTF. Some kid in India is working an 8 hour shift, going to school.....The baby boomers and their hippy yuppie children made us soft. ;D

I'm with Dustreel. Education may not be what it could be, but there's no stinkin' way we're 50th or even close to it. When I hear that we're 50th in the world, I hear the NEA asking for more money. Also, when comparing anything across countries, it's never apples to apples. Well, sometimes it's apples to horse apples. Worse, lots of countries pad their stats in ways we don't.

The US is still far and away the best place for innovation and entrepreneurship. This doesn't happen with an educational system that ranks 50th in the world.

Let me sum up. If edumucation were so bad here, would anyone in this country be smart enough to post to the Dive Bar?

Sorry Burma but thats just your opinion and a very American one at that......Your education stinks compared to most countries i know of, we get drowned with American TV and some of the #$%* we see is mind boggling. Some of the questions i have been asked since i started frequenting forums on the net are just plain #$%*ing stupid and it surprises me none that you guys are 50th in the world. Generally most Americans know #$%* all about their own country let alone what happens in the rest of the world mate. Ever watched Judge Judy, man i have seen some of the dumbest people on the planet on that show, even business men that are absolutely clueless and live in a false reality because of their poor education. I would go as far as saying that Most Aussies and Kiwi's would probably know more about America and American history than a large number of Americans because thats what we were taught at school. I have found generally that most Americans naturally assume that they6 are superior and this ridiculous notion is partly responsible for the situation you find yourselves in, also the fact that Republicans hate everything State controlled like hospitals and schools, health care, so the public schools are under funded, besides thats probably what your #$%*ed up governments want because an ignorant population is easier to control....Knowledge is power after all....Look at where you sit internationally at health care and various other things as well....Not too good for a "super power" Feed the dummies bull#$%* propaganda and they will come a running.......
No offence meant at all, it just surprises me that you guys are so blind to it, and i am sick of hearing, "oh it can't be because we are America, the best country on the planet"......some of you need to get out more often.... ;) ;D


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Mick, if Aussies get drowned with American TV then that means Aussies are entertained by it and your programming is just keeping up with demand., sheesh, even an American can figure that out.
Your education must not be so great if you can't.  ???

If you judge the American people based on lame TV shows, I'd say you know nothing about the media or the American people.

  "No offence"      Did you learn to spell from watching Judge Judy?

Offense taken.

#$%* off mate!
 

We don't have a choice when it comes to the media we watch,Thank Murdoch and #$%*heads like that for our lack of choice, you may be a bit stupid yourself mate and shove your American spelling up your arse {ass} , the #$%*in American spell checker wanted it spelled that way, if you lot didn't butcher the #$%*ing English language there would be no problem. No one could learn to spell of Judge Judy and it was an example and if you weren't so #$%*ing blind to what goes on in your own backyard then things may improve....Look at Diggers reply mate....America isn't the world it is a #$%*in country and its high and #$%*in mighty attitude is leaving it in the dark ages in a lot of ways......And yes smart arse , i intentionally left the #$%*in {G} of #$%*in...... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D    What a stupid ignorant reply.......

I love the dive bar...... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #35719 on: January 29, 2011, 04:52:20 PM »
And I will also agree with Mick that our education system is equally #$%*ed.  Funding comes from property tax in many areas meaning that the richest people get the best education and the poorest get #$%*ed and stay poor.  The first place education gets cut is in the subject of history; just ask my wife, an unemployed high school history teacher.  That's why you hear ignorant comments from people about how they think we should handle current world problems.

"It's not our problem and we should just leave them all the #$%* alone!" - That's called Isolationism and if you had a decent history education, you would know that America already tried it and World War I was the result.

"What did we ever do to Afghanistan?" - We funded and supplied their government during the cold war to fight against the Soviet Union.  When the Soviet Union collapsed, so did our support for Afghanistan, leaving a power vacuum that was quickly filled with tyranny.

"We should just turn Iraq into a glass parking lot!" - We are going to destroy a country we funded to fight against Iran?  Do you even know why there is still fighting over there?  Do you know that there are three major groups who we are trying to force to live together?

"At least World War II was not our fault!  We kicked ass for a good cause!" - World War II was a result of our failed resolutions to World War I.  We destroyed half of Europe in WWI and when the war was over, we all left Germany with the bill.  We also did not help establish a government in that country at the end of WWI.  This led to the easy rise of Hitler, a charismatic leader who helped the country rebuild under a policy of racism and genocide.

If you ask me, I say we need to throw a little more money at History education and stop funding research to find a cure for male pattern baldness along with countless other selfish desires.
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« Reply #35720 on: January 29, 2011, 05:00:10 PM »
Hey Retro, said like a non-American, most of whom dislike American out of pure (although never admitted) jealousy.

If you want to piss on America. Go to town. Where was it this site was formed? Who invented the Internet over which it's delivered to you? Are you forming your opinions about our educational system from television? And who's the bigger dumb*sses when it comes to American television. Your folks watch it, and it isn't even home made for you. What does that say about the Aussies? Worse, are you forming your opinions from television that's intended to showcase a lack of common sense? How much of our "stupid" culture does your culture suck up? And you should be advised that the show you're talking about (and similar shows that non-Americans cite) are barely watched here.

Where do most pharmaceutical innovations come from? And we pay more than our share for them because so many countries insist on slapping price controls on them under the stupid misapprehension that the cost of a medication is simply the cost to manufacture it.

As for health care, we get a bad rap because we don't have universal health insurance; however, healthcare is provided to all. Just visit Southern California and visit emergency rooms to see how we provide health care to illegal aliens. I don't know about about Australia, but I know that our cancer survival rates are higher than in European countries with nationalized health care. I also know that many drugs routinely prescribed for cancer here are unavailable in some countries that have nationalized health care. Some of the European countries held up as examples to us have breast cancer survival rates that would be positively stone age here.

I can personally say that I have had MRI's done for routine issues (sinus infections, etc.) with absolutely no wait at all. On the other hand, we have hospitals north of me that do a cash business not only in MRI's, but also in Cat Scans for Canadian customers who cannot get them there. Other border hospitals do a cash business in surgical procedures for Canadians who must wait years for routine procedures.

As far as education goes, of the world's top 20 universities, we have 13 of them (see the Guardian). Australia hits the list with one university at #20. I guess somehow the education system that is ranked at 50th in the world produces university candidates that are the best in the world. Of the top 100 universities, we have nearly one third of them, although I'll grant that Australia has better primary education than the US.

Lastly, I'll say it again and again. People are literally dying to get into the US. There is no other engine for entrepreneurship like the US.
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« Reply #35721 on: January 29, 2011, 05:03:35 PM »
Digger, my last reply was a little tongue in cheek and i expected that reply to come...hence the smiles.... ;)   But you are saying what i was but probably a little better, it is far more obvious when you look at it from the outside , you know, can't see the forest for the trees.....
I was actually dux of my school for all 6 junior years {usually 7 years but i was put up a year} and #$%*ed it all up when my parents divorced....Pretty silly in hindsight.. ??? But we had a large contingency of world and American history, things like the Civil war, Custer's last stand, the effects of Europeans on the Indian population, the signing of the constitution and what it was supposed to mean compared to its modern interpretations, the Boston tea party and plenty more, and i am also aware {i have younger American friends as well in Australia} that there are gaping holes in their education, i know this happens everywhere but usually because the kids aren't interested in school, not because it isn't being taught.....I really wasn't trying to be controversial but i also expected the defensive USA USA USA replies...... ;D ;)

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« Reply #35722 on: January 29, 2011, 05:15:31 PM »
Take it outside.  We have less important things to discuss here.

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« Reply #35723 on: January 29, 2011, 05:16:53 PM »
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Hey Retro, said like a non-American, most of whom dislike American out of pure (although never admitted) jealousy.

Like i said, some of you need to get out more often.....If you lived where i lived you would never leave, those of you that have been here will know exactly what i mean.

The rest of that dribble is just defensive and lacking facts....And if you actually look up the origins of a lot of the worlds current technologies and break through s  you will get a huge surprise. Universities have nothing to do with what we are talking about and it surprises me none that the rich have a better chance of being educated, that's half the problem....What you just said is the problem, if you can afford to mgo to uni and study history then you will be educated about it, i learned American history at primary school {under 12 years old}  People are literally dying to get out of a lot of countries and go anywhere, doesn't mean a #$%*ing thing. Sorry Burma but your post lacks fact and is just defensive. I want to know what you think of Diggers post. And by the way, you see it as American bashing not me, i just tell it like it is, like it or lump it.....  ;D You see, you are not the best country in the world but i am not saying we are either, you just, like a lot of you guys think to criticise is to bash....wrong.  America wants it to be a free world community as long as we all do it your way..... and that is extremely arrogant.....

Mick
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« Reply #35724 on: January 29, 2011, 06:25:48 PM »
This is remids me of that time I told Sam750A that streetfighters and cafe racers in Europe look like crap.......He followed up his threats up and we met at the bar. good times.
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