Topic: Aftermarket frame - group purchase

[eli]

Well, there is a pair of shoes in front of the bike. And I identified the object on the gas tank as a cup. But as I look at it more closely, both round shapes on top of the tank are for fuel, aren't they? The resolution is not very high...

[simon#42]

well i got it !    sam i thought peter darvil died about 10 years ago .

[bwaller]

As mentioned, I doubt any inspector here would know the difference between a stock frame and a banana.

If it's a one-off frame for personal use cut out the stamped VIN # from the stock steering head and tack it on the new head. Likewise carefully remove the alum plate and glue/rivot on.

[livefast_dieold]

As mentioned, I doubt any inspector here would know the difference between a stock frame and a banana.

If it's a one-off frame for personal use cut out the stamped VIN # from the stock steering head and tack it on the new head. Likewise carefully remove the alum plate and glue/rivot on.

Yep, that's how it works in Italy too. They won't care much about the frame (they don't have a clue on how an original frame looks like) but mostly about lights, indicators, horn, etc...

My experience here in Italy is that they (i.e. inspectors and police) don't care much about choppers, cafe racer and the likes, as they know the riders of those bikes won't be likely to drive fast or recklessly. I never heard of a Harley rider being stopped by the police and having his bike confiscated because of an aftermarket non-homologated exhaust... If you get stopped while riding a modern supersport bike and may help you God even if you have one non-original bolt

[MessnerMoto]

As mentioned, I doubt any inspector here would know the difference between a stock frame and a banana.

If it's a one-off frame for personal use cut out the stamped VIN # from the stock steering head and tack it on the new head. Likewise carefully remove the alum plate and glue/rivot on.

I tried to keep it low if somebody is listening

[bwaller]

I understand and won't scream it from the highest mountain. 

It is a fact however that people do read these forums. Recently there was a race class rule change proposal that would have excluded my bike specifically. I am certain the proposer would be a member here.

[eli]

As mentioned, I doubt any inspector here would know the difference between a stock frame and a banana.

If it's a one-off frame for personal use cut out the stamped VIN # from the stock steering head and tack it on the new head. Likewise carefully remove the alum plate and glue/rivot on.

Yep, that's how it works in Italy too. They won't care much about the frame (they don't have a clue on how an original frame looks like) but mostly about lights, indicators, horn, etc...

My experience here in Italy is that they (i.e. inspectors and police) don't care much about choppers, cafe racer and the likes, as they know the riders of those bikes won't be likely to drive fast or recklessly. I never heard of a Harley rider being stopped by the police and having his bike confiscated because of an aftermarket non-homologated exhaust... If you get stopped while riding a modern supersport bike and may help you God even if you have one non-original bolt

Which means I have to export my bike to Italy! And I need someone to register it for me and sell it back to me afterwards 

[simon#42]

I understand and won't scream it from the highest mountain. 

It is a fact however that people do read these forums. Recently there was a race class rule change proposal that would have excluded my bike specifically. I am certain the proposer would be a member here.

If you can't beat them get them banned !    If you build a bike according to the rules you dont expect someone to change them when they feel like .

[Sam Green Racing]

well i got it !    sam i thought peter darvil died about 10 years ago .

Yes Simon but before he did, a friend of mine who like you, I met on here married his daughter and resurrected the team.
It was Darvill Racing who set up that Electric Land Speed Record that I set a few weeks before my big accident.
Of the two frames he had, he sold one to a friend of mine in Texas who is also a member of the forum, as is the owner of the #2 bike.

[gschuld]

Tony Faole also had a clean monoshock design.

George

[westfieldandy]

At www.good-bits.co.uk we have been quietly working on new chassis for the smith honda F750 race bike. The new chassis is awaiting final approval for UK championship status etc, and we intend to have complete bike ready for some races next year.

The frame is available to order now. if anybody would like one. we have jigs already manufactured

For F750 rules the frame has to look the similar to original road frame, so it is twin shock etc, but the tubing used is lighter and more rigid and slightly larger in dia. we also took the opportunity to change the geometry of the chassis, and use a period looking box section swing arm in conjunction with new magnesium front and rear hubs to get rid of as much weight as possible.  This will be the best way forward to create a competitive machine, the std chassis/running gear is just not good enough to cut it with the rob north framed triples fully developed in todays championships

The frames are made here in uk by an established race frame manufacturer and are a real thing of beauty.

Frame and swing arm kit is £3600

I would love to get some out there running in f750 classic racing. and would consider some kind of support package if a good rider commits to a full championship.

andy

[westfieldandy]

sam green.

I restored the darvill bike for alex. and took it to reims and ran it before it went back to darvill HQ in IOM.  I had the other darvill frame here for repair too, always wondered what happened to the others.  I would really like to have one to go with my other special framed honda's.

is the one pictured yours ?

what are you going to do with it.

andy

[Sam Green Racing]

sam green.

I restored the darvill bike for alex. and took it to reims and ran it before it went back to darvill HQ in IOM.  I had the other darvill frame here for repair too, always wondered what happened to the others.  I would really like to have one to go with my other special framed honda's.

is the one pictured yours ?

what are you going to do with it.

andy

No Andy, that's the #2 bike and belongs to Julien Charnoll in France.
Julien is the guy that built the six Honda 6s for George Beal.
He does ride the #2 bike in endurance races and parades.

[livefast_dieold]

As mentioned, I doubt any inspector here would know the difference between a stock frame and a banana.

If it's a one-off frame for personal use cut out the stamped VIN # from the stock steering head and tack it on the new head. Likewise carefully remove the alum plate and glue/rivot on.

Yep, that's how it works in Italy too. They won't care much about the frame (they don't have a clue on how an original frame looks like) but mostly about lights, indicators, horn, etc...

My experience here in Italy is that they (i.e. inspectors and police) don't care much about choppers, cafe racer and the likes, as they know the riders of those bikes won't be likely to drive fast or recklessly. I never heard of a Harley rider being stopped by the police and having his bike confiscated because of an aftermarket non-homologated exhaust... If you get stopped while riding a modern supersport bike and may help you God even if you have one non-original bolt

Which means I have to export my bike to Italy! And I need someone to register it for me and sell it back to me afterwards 

Doable, but you need to sacrifice an original frame with papers in order

[gschuld]

At www.good-bits.co.uk we have been quietly working on new chassis for the smith honda F750 race bike. The new chassis is awaiting final approval for UK championship status etc, and we intend to have complete bike ready for some races next year.

The frame is available to order now. if anybody would like one. we have jigs already manufactured

For F750 rules the frame has to look the similar to original road frame, so it is twin shock etc, but the tubing used is lighter and more rigid and slightly larger in dia. we also took the opportunity to change the geometry of the chassis, and use a period looking box section swing arm in conjunction with new magnesium front and rear hubs to get rid of as much weight as possible.  This will be the best way forward to create a competitive machine, the std chassis/running gear is just not good enough to cut it with the rob north framed triples fully developed in todays championships

The frames are made here in uk by an established race frame manufacturer and are a real thing of beauty.

Frame and swing arm kit is £3600

I would love to get some out there running in f750 classic racing. and would consider some kind of support package if a good rider commits to a full championship.

andy

Andy,

Nice to hear about your frame project.  I’d love to see pictures of your work at some point.

George

[livefast_dieold]

BTW, there's a free CAD model of the frame here: https://grabcad.com/library/honda-cb-750-frame-1

[turboguzzi]

some good stuff in your site andy, compliments of taking on the task of doing better "stock" frames.
just in case it helps to know, davies motorpsorts did something similar with 500/4 frames, i.e. redone with proper tubing but stock design and got them approved for racing in UK. You might want to have a word with him. 

[Leino]

Racing use only frames?

[Medyo Bastos]

well i got it !    sam i thought peter darvil died about 10 years ago .

Yes Simon but before he did, a friend of mine who like you, I met on here married his daughter and resurrected the team.
It was Darvill Racing who set up that Electric Land Speed Record that I set a few weeks before my big accident.
Of the two frames he had, he sold one to a friend of mine in Texas who is also a member of the forum, as is the owner of the #2 bike.

Sammy, your friend married his daughter?


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[simon#42]

pretty normal behaviour in the isle of man 

[Leino]

If the answer to my previous question is "yes", have you contacted JL-Meccanica for a quote?

[livefast_dieold]

If the answer to my previous question is "yes", have you contacted JL-Meccanica for a quote?

Totally forgot to ask them, I even followed them on facebook.
Will drop them a line, thanks for reminding!

[Leino]

If the answer to my previous question is "yes", have you contacted JL-Meccanica for a quote?

Totally forgot to ask them, I even followed them on facebook.
Will drop them a line, thanks for reminding!

Janne is running a one man show so he might be busy but worth asking anyway.

[livefast_dieold]

Folks, it seems we have a winner: it's JL Meccanica

backbone egli style frame at 900 € +300 € for swingarm
trellis martin style frame at 2500  € (including swingarm)

Really hard ot say no to the egli frame

[simon#42]

it depends how good the frames are , if you cant win a race on it its worthless .