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630 Chain Riveting?
« on: November 04, 2018, 10:01:03 am »
Ok, searched for a thread already on this, but found nothing. Got a new 630 for my '77 750 k1, got a tool off fleabay, said it could rivet 630. Such was not the case, it only did 530. >:( Any suggestions? homemade tools? Tips and tricks for riveting chain? Thanks in advance for any advice.  ;D
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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2018, 02:34:29 pm »
Buy the proper tool or take it to a shop. You don’t want to hafass the quality of this job.


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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2018, 04:19:15 pm »
indeed, I do not wish to half-ass the job.  Show me a link to the proper tool and I shall buy it! finding the tool is my problem.
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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2018, 05:11:01 pm »
Here is the one I have
https://www.amazon.ca/Motion-Pro-08-0058-Breaker-Riveting/dp/B001KOPFIW


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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2018, 05:43:30 pm »
Ok, but that looks like it only does 530, that's my trouble. I can't seem to find one for the bigger 630 chain. might just have to take it to a shop like you said.
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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2018, 05:49:31 pm »
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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2018, 12:42:44 pm »
Just take it to the shop this time.
 Then when the 630 wears out, toss it, and switch to 530  for ever.
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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2018, 12:48:19 pm »
Yeah, 630 is a bunch of dead weight that doesn't contribute to strength. 530 is thy way.
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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2018, 04:34:23 am »
Have you considered fitting an O/X-ring 630 split link?

I have had one on my Z900A4 for the last 3 years without any problems, correctly fitted  they are fine, but clearly a personal choice.

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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2018, 05:58:47 am »
Literally no way a removable master link is weaker than a riveted one. If you are worried about the clip coming off, just a few wraps of safety wire around the outside plate and the clip and it won't be going anywhere. Makes servicing the chain far easier as well.
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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2018, 10:46:41 am »
I know you will not want to hear this but here is the truth.

The #630 chain was a very heavy chain. Many CB750's had the chain break and go through the engine case right in front of the countershaft sprocket.
You will see many CB750's with repairs to the case in the area of the chain.
Get rid of that #630 chain and sprockets. Use #530 chain and sprockets.
The 1978 CB 750's had a thicker engine case in the area where the engine cases were getting broken.
Another of the 22 improvements the 1978 CB750 had.
Now chains are much more improved and manufactured and problems like that do not happen.

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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2018, 12:20:51 pm »
Even 530 chains are too heavy for the modern bikes with >3x Hp than stock CB750. Modern chains are much stronger than chains for 30-40 years ago.
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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2018, 12:26:33 pm »
Even 530 chains are too heavy for the modern bikes with >3x Hp than stock CB750. Modern chains are much stronger than chains for 30-40 years ago.

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Re: 630 Chain Riveting?
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2018, 11:37:47 am »
They do stiĺl break simply because some people do not maintain them
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