Author Topic: What's the difference between a '73 cb750K and the '75 cb750F super sport engines?  (Read 3221 times)

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Offline Rurouni

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These engines look very similar in appearance, so what makes them different?
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75 CB750F has a much better cam, slightly higher compression, updated head, different gearing in tranny and therefore is more powerful.
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75 CB750F has a much better cam, slightly higher compression, updated head, different gearing in tranny and therefore is more powerful.
...barely...not really enough to notice
If it works good, it looks good...

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So here's my question: would it be possible to put 1975 cb750F internals in a '73 cb750k engine case?

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So would it be possible to put 1975 cb750F internals in a 1973 cb750k engine case?

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Yes it would, but as Sean's said, there's no noticeable performance difference, I first installed a 1975 F (super sport) engine in my K2, then replaced it with a K4 engine, and noticed absolutely no difference in performance.

On paper the Super sport engine had a tad more pep, but in the real world, with 40(+) year old bikes in average condition, you'd need a dyno to see any difference. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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I think the transmission is a little better and the f engines seem to be put together a little better, and stay that way.
If it works good, it looks good...

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Thanks guys!
I'm going to start my project...
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I think the transmission is a little better and the f engines seem to be put together a little better, and stay that way.

With the exception of the F2 engines, which were way more fragile. ;D
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I think the transmission is a little better and the f engines seem to be put together a little better, and stay that way.

With the exception of the F2 engines, which were way more fragile. ;D
yup
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75F internals will fit into 73K cases.  The final drive shaft and driven gear (were the c/s sprocket goes) is different, the F has the solid shaft not hollow like the K had for chain lubrication and the driven gear on the F has 50T were as the K has 56T, just keep all the F stuff together and you will be fine.

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I found a '75 cb750k complete engine with shiny bits on it. I'm going to use that as my donor engine. ' installed the '75 oil cooler on the '73 today.

In the pictures: the '75 is on the tire with some damage and the '73 is on the engine night stand.

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 It's years after the original post but any engine with that much case damage could very well have transmission damage from the broken drive chain and/or case pieces entering between the gears. 
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It's years after the original post but any engine with that much case damage could very well have transmission damage from the broken drive chain and/or case pieces entering between the gears. 
That's what I was thinking, too...looks nasty!
I once bought an engine from Vance & Hines' then-retired pit wrench. He had 2 whole leftovers, one with broken fins. They were said to be 'ready spare parts' for their bad days. When I got it home I stored it for 4 years, then tore it down for a look-see: the chain had fully wiped out the entire face of the tranny case right in front of the sprocket, then someone had very skillfully sculptured [a LOT of] JB Weld across the opening, and then sold the engine. V&H probably bought it with the same grease packed on it that I saw when I got it: when I broke it apart I found 3 large, partially-ground-up chinks of the cases inside. Wrecked the gears forks, oil pump (suction side), and all the ball bearings, but the crank and rods were pristine, still.
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It's years after the original post but any engine with that much case damage could very well have transmission damage from the broken drive chain and/or case pieces entering between the gears. 
That's what I was thinking, too...looks nasty!
I once bought an engine from Vance & Hines' then-retired pit wrench. He had 2 whole leftovers, one with broken fins. They were said to be 'ready spare parts' for their bad days. When I got it home I stored it for 4 years, then tore it down for a look-see: the chain had fully wiped out the entire face of the tranny case right in front of the sprocket, then someone had very skillfully sculptured [a LOT of] JB Weld across the opening, and then sold the engine. V&H probably bought it with the same grease packed on it that I saw when I got it: when I broke it apart I found 3 large, partially-ground-up chinks of the cases inside. Wrecked the gears forks, oil pump (suction side), and all the ball bearings, but the crank and rods were pristine, still.

LOL....

A number of years ago a couple of friends imported a few Vincents from South America.  They looked a bit rough, but it appeared that there was enough there to build a couple of nice bikes.  Much to their surprise, some of the bikes in the lot had engines with no internals.  Another bike had a grenaded transmission, with the case epoxied back together.  They ended up selling the lot at a loss.



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It's years after the original post but any engine with that much case damage could very well have transmission damage from the broken drive chain and/or case pieces entering between the gears. 

then someone had very skillfully sculptured [a LOT of] JB Weld across the opening


Have seen similar at the local machine shop…The owner wanted to show me a freshly painted push arm from a recent auction purchase. It had a long crack in a beautiful submerged arc appearing weld.. That perfect weld turned out to be skillfully applied bondo. Complete  with spoon or tool mark to simulate the puddle solidifying… We mutually chuckled the amount of time spent to simulate a weld vs actually welding it.

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