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Offline Tintop

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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2019, 07:59:26 am »
I am not at all well versed on early Honda cb750 based racing history.  So I have no idea how many custom framed CB750 engined race bikes the Honda racing group built back then of who they sold them to.

But they offered their “970” kits or “970” individual race specific parts to the public through dealers yes?  Those 970 kit parts were intended to transform a factory CB750 with bolt on parts into a race bike.  Not that this was equivalent to a Honda racing custom built racer, but a reasonably(depending on the competition level) competitive setup while using the factory chassis, swingarm, as a base. 

So is it fair to say that it’s possible that this bike was (or most of it was) a factory new 1971 bike that Honda supplied a whole pile of “970” kit parts to build a brand new race bike while retaining the factory oil tank etc?  This certainly doesn’t mean it’s a Honda factory racebike like Dick Mann and others raced, nor should it pretend to be anywhere near as valuable. 

But is this a likely situation assuming the provenance paperwork is real but “cleverly” exaggerated for the sake of increasing its value?

George

And this brings us full circle to my original comment....was it a factory built 'kit bike', that now seems to be possibly missing / or never had some 'kit' pieces.
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Offline gschuld

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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2019, 08:12:40 am »
I am not at all well versed on early Honda cb750 based racing history.  So I have no idea how many custom framed CB750 engined race bikes the Honda racing group built back then of who they sold them to.

But they offered their “970” kits or “970” individual race specific parts to the public through dealers yes?  Those 970 kit parts were intended to transform a factory CB750 with bolt on parts into a race bike.  Not that this was equivalent to a Honda racing custom built racer, but a reasonably(depending on the competition level) competitive setup while using the factory chassis, swingarm, as a base. 

So is it fair to say that it’s possible that this bike was (or most of it was) a factory new 1971 bike that Honda supplied a whole pile of “970” kit parts to build a brand new race bike while retaining the factory oil tank etc?  This certainly doesn’t mean it’s a Honda factory racebike like Dick Mann and others raced, nor should it pretend to be anywhere near as valuable. 

But is this a likely situation assuming the provenance paperwork is real but “cleverly” exaggerated for the sake of increasing its value?

George

And this brings us full circle to my original comment....was it a factory built 'kit bike', that now seems to be possibly missing / or never had some 'kit' pieces.

Right, what you said, but with more wordiness😂

George

 

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