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Offline Tintop

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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2019, 07:59:26 am »
I am not at all well versed on early Honda cb750 based racing history.  So I have no idea how many custom framed CB750 engined race bikes the Honda racing group built back then of who they sold them to.

But they offered their “970” kits or “970” individual race specific parts to the public through dealers yes?  Those 970 kit parts were intended to transform a factory CB750 with bolt on parts into a race bike.  Not that this was equivalent to a Honda racing custom built racer, but a reasonably(depending on the competition level) competitive setup while using the factory chassis, swingarm, as a base. 

So is it fair to say that it’s possible that this bike was (or most of it was) a factory new 1971 bike that Honda supplied a whole pile of “970” kit parts to build a brand new race bike while retaining the factory oil tank etc?  This certainly doesn’t mean it’s a Honda factory racebike like Dick Mann and others raced, nor should it pretend to be anywhere near as valuable. 

But is this a likely situation assuming the provenance paperwork is real but “cleverly” exaggerated for the sake of increasing its value?

George

And this brings us full circle to my original comment....was it a factory built 'kit bike', that now seems to be possibly missing / or never had some 'kit' pieces.
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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2019, 08:12:40 am »
I am not at all well versed on early Honda cb750 based racing history.  So I have no idea how many custom framed CB750 engined race bikes the Honda racing group built back then of who they sold them to.

But they offered their “970” kits or “970” individual race specific parts to the public through dealers yes?  Those 970 kit parts were intended to transform a factory CB750 with bolt on parts into a race bike.  Not that this was equivalent to a Honda racing custom built racer, but a reasonably(depending on the competition level) competitive setup while using the factory chassis, swingarm, as a base. 

So is it fair to say that it’s possible that this bike was (or most of it was) a factory new 1971 bike that Honda supplied a whole pile of “970” kit parts to build a brand new race bike while retaining the factory oil tank etc?  This certainly doesn’t mean it’s a Honda factory racebike like Dick Mann and others raced, nor should it pretend to be anywhere near as valuable. 

But is this a likely situation assuming the provenance paperwork is real but “cleverly” exaggerated for the sake of increasing its value?

George

And this brings us full circle to my original comment....was it a factory built 'kit bike', that now seems to be possibly missing / or never had some 'kit' pieces.

Right, what you said, but with more wordiness😂

George

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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2019, 01:42:56 am »
Did it sell ? Anyone know what the hammer price was?
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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2019, 03:18:36 am »
I've been trying to find out Eric, I've seen the hammer price on a lot of the bikes but not this one.
I'll do some more digging.

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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2019, 08:54:33 am »
 I saw it go through because I was telling my wife it might not be real. I suspect questions were raised and it went away.
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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2019, 10:14:41 am »
it's deffo not in the top ten list so IF it sold it's under 170K, while was estimated for 300K?
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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2019, 01:11:44 pm »
 The announcers said it sold for a third or fourth of what they thought it might bring. I'm thinking it was around $80K
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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2019, 09:58:04 pm »
 It vanished from their auction pages. I suspect questions were raised about authenticity and they wisely swept it under the rug.
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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2019, 04:58:01 am »
It sold for $50K guys.
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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2019, 08:00:45 am »
so was it you sam?

nice deal!

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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2019, 04:33:24 am »
so was it you sam?

nice deal!

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I wouldn't have paid $15K for that one Yos. haha.
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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2019, 06:33:43 am »
It sold for $50K guys.

Did you see it was up to $100K and then oddly went down?
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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2019, 10:15:16 am »
it will have been bidded  up by people connected to the seller in the hope of getting someone to join in , when nobody did they will have withdrawn their bid .
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Re: Factory CR750 at Mecum
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2019, 09:17:05 am »
I can only wonder why is was removed from the auction sale lists.
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