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« on: February 12, 2019, 05:55:46 pm »
Hi everyone,

I have a tank I am redoing for my cb550 cafe project. The tank has a dent on the left side that I need to pop out. The dent has a diameter of about 5 inches and there is no crease.

I thought of trying to put some kind of bar through the top to try and push it out from the inside but there is very little wiggle room to work with. Another method I tried was a dent puller kit. That just pulled the paint off and isn’t sticking to the bare metal.

Hoping someone on here has some tips or tricks to get this thing out.




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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2019, 07:43:32 pm »
Ive seen people fill the tank 3/4 full of water and freeze it. Other than that id say a air powered slide hammer or weld on studs for a slife hammer
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2019, 07:49:49 pm »
There is a glue on system of pullers that works well. Then you just have to fill the rest to make it straight.

Like this:

https://www.amazon.com/MMPP-Paintless-Repair-Slider-Removal/dp/B079L4HTHP?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-osx-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B079L4HTHP

Just a quick search and there are many kits out there. You will still have to fill to straighten.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2019, 08:15:06 pm »
Ive seen people fill the tank 3/4 full of water and freeze it. Other than that id say a air powered slide hammer or weld on studs for a slife hammer
Wow freezing the water is a great idea. I’m gonna give that a try! Thanks!


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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2019, 08:16:54 pm »
There is a glue on system of pullers that works well. Then you just have to fill the rest to make it straight.

Like this:

https://www.amazon.com/MMPP-Paintless-Repair-Slider-Removal/dp/B079L4HTHP?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-osx-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B079L4HTHP

Just a quick search and there are many kits out there. You will still have to fill to straighten.
Thanks for the response! I already gave this exact kit a try. It pulled off the paint and then wouldn’t stick good to the bare metal


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Re: Help! Looking for best dent removal techniques
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2019, 09:35:10 pm »
Don't freeze it or use air pressure to remove the dent. You may end up bending the tank in ways you can't imagine, or splitting a seam. Check into a paintless dent removal guy, they have the tools to work through the filler hole and can work magic.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2019, 09:47:39 pm »
Don't freeze it or use air pressure to remove the dent. You may end up bending the tank in ways you can't imagine, or splitting a seam. Check into a paintless dent removal guy, they have the tools to work through the filler hole and can work magic.
I may have to do that. Thanks for your input. Is that a fairly cheap job? I’m trying to save as much money as I can throughout this build

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2019, 10:07:26 pm »
I don't know what they would charge but it does look like a simple job. Pretty sure it will be cheaper than buying another tank if that one got ruined.

The problem with using air or freezing is it pushes everything,  not just the dent and you can't control it. They will usually spread the tunnel that goes over the frame then the tank won't fit the mounting tabs properly and will be loose.

Call a couple of them and get an estimate.  Some regular body shops might offer that service also, but ASK them if they intend to use air. If the say yes, turn and walk away.

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2019, 10:32:12 pm »
There are plenty of videos on youtube about dent removal
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2019, 03:09:50 am »
Don't freeze it or use air pressure to remove the dent. You may end up bending the tank in ways you can't imagine, or splitting a seam. Check into a paintless dent removal guy, they have the tools to work through the filler hole and can work magic.
I may have to do that. Thanks for your input. Is that a fairly cheap job? I’m trying to save as much money as I can throughout this build
You can do it yourself if you have a decent bench vise.

Grab some 3/8” steel rod, about 30” of it. About 4” from the end, bend a 45* in it using some heat to do so. Grind the tip into a blunt taper. Heat the middle of the length that is straight and put a slight curve into it. Bend the final 6” at 90* to make a handle. Wrap that with some duct tape.

Slide the bar into the tank with the tank securely fastened to the bike for leverage. Remove the paint and point a light flat along the side so you can use the shadows to identify the position of the dent and your tip. Using the tunnel as leverage, gently push the edges of the dent first. Working yuor way inward. You should get it very close.

Follow up with a brass blunt punch to tap down a pry marks and high spots. Lastly, a fine file to flatten them if needed. If you need more curvature for the tip to reach the side, pull the bar out, heat it, bend it, let it cool.

I’ve done dozens of these tanks with this method (store bought tools). I gave them to a pal a couple of years ago who was starting in the business and needed a bumpstart. But I’ve made plenty of them following this method. The metal will move easier if warm, and don’t get in a rush, push, move, push a little, move, and so on. Don’t try to get it all out first push. Patience or you’ll make a worse mess..
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Re: Help! Looking for best dent removal techniques
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2019, 04:47:59 am »
There are plenty of videos on youtube about dent removal
Like this one 
Awesome, thanks!


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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2019, 04:48:34 am »
Don't freeze it or use air pressure to remove the dent. You may end up bending the tank in ways you can't imagine, or splitting a seam. Check into a paintless dent removal guy, they have the tools to work through the filler hole and can work magic.
I may have to do that. Thanks for your input. Is that a fairly cheap job? I’m trying to save as much money as I can throughout this build
You can do it yourself if you have a decent bench vise.

Grab some 3/8” steel rod, about 30” of it. About 4” from the end, bend a 45* in it using some heat to do so. Grind the tip into a blunt taper. Heat the middle of the length that is straight and put a slight curve into it. Bend the final 6” at 90* to make a handle. Wrap that with some duct tape.

Slide the bar into the tank with the tank securely fastened to the bike for leverage. Remove the paint and point a light flat along the side so you can use the shadows to identify the position of the dent and your tip. Using the tunnel as leverage, gently push the edges of the dent first. Working yuor way inward. You should get it very close.

Follow up with a brass blunt punch to tap down a pry marks and high spots. Lastly, a fine file to flatten them if needed. If you need more curvature for the tip to reach the side, pull the bar out, heat it, bend it, let it cool.

I’ve done dozens of these tanks with this method (store bought tools). I gave them to a pal a couple of years ago who was starting in the business and needed a bumpstart. But I’ve made plenty of them following this method. The metal will move easier if warm, and don’t get in a rush, push, move, push a little, move, and so on. Don’t try to get it all out first push. Patience or you’ll make a worse mess..
Thank you! You guys are a lot of help, I appreciate it


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Re: Help! Looking for best dent removal techniques
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Re: Help! Looking for best dent removal techniques
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2019, 07:55:08 am »
There is a glue on system of pullers that works well. Then you just have to fill the rest to make it straight.

Like this:

https://www.amazon.com/MMPP-Paintless-Repair-Slider-Removal/dp/B079L4HTHP?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-osx-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B079L4HTHP

Just a quick search and there are many kits out there. You will still have to fill to straighten.
Thanks for the response! I already gave this exact kit a try. It pulled off the paint and then wouldn’t stick good to the bare metal


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Surprising. I have a friend who pulled a dent similar to that on the top of his tank with one of the glue on kits with pretty good results. He had OEM paint on it though and it held tight.

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Re: Help! Looking for best dent removal techniques
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2019, 08:00:05 am »
There is a glue on system of pullers that works well. Then you just have to fill the rest to make it straight.

Like this:

https://www.amazon.com/MMPP-Paintless-Repair-Slider-Removal/dp/B079L4HTHP?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-osx-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B079L4HTHP

Just a quick search and there are many kits out there. You will still have to fill to straighten.
Thanks for the response! I already gave this exact kit a try. It pulled off the paint and then wouldn’t stick good to the bare metal


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Surprising. I have a friend who pulled a dent similar to that on the top of his tank with one of the glue on kits with pretty good results. He had OEM paint on it though and it held tight.
Yeah I was surprised too. It worked so well on a really difficult ding on my car. I’m gonna try again later tonight on the bare metal. Maybe I’ll rough it up to make the glue stick better. I’ll let you guys know how it goes


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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2019, 08:32:05 am »
One problem you have is that there is a sharp edged crease in that dent and that means the metal has deformed so wont pop out easy.
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2019, 09:14:56 am »
One problem you have is that there is a sharp edged crease in that dent and that means the metal has deformed so wont pop out easy.
That’s why pushing is better. Pulling won’t get it done with glue tabs.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2019, 02:35:36 pm »
That's not a dent for the faint-of-heart or in-experienced.  Please don't put water in it and freeze it.  I don't know how that technique got started but it's absolutely the WORST thing you can do.  It, 99.9% of the time, ruins the entire tank...just like using compressed air..bad..bad.  Those glue on pullers hardly ever work either..sometimes they do if it's a shallow dent but you have a BIG dent.  May I suggest that you bite the bullet, take it to a body shop and have them use a stud gun to pull it out.  Quick, easy, efficient, and affordable. 
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2019, 06:39:31 pm »
OK.. try this?
https://youtu.be/eDWm5AEjyFY
Lol!! I do not have that “tool” in my workshop. Darn.....


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« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2019, 02:30:32 pm »
Don't freeze it or use air pressure to remove the dent. You may end up bending the tank in ways you can't imagine, or splitting a seam. Check into a paintless dent removal guy, they have the tools to work through the filler hole and can work magic.
I may have to do that. Thanks for your input. Is that a fairly cheap job? I’m trying to save as much money as I can throughout this build
You can do it yourself if you have a decent bench vise.

Grab some 3/8” steel rod, about 30” of it. About 4” from the end, bend a 45* in it using some heat to do so. Grind the tip into a blunt taper. Heat the middle of the length that is straight and put a slight curve into it. Bend the final 6” at 90* to make a handle. Wrap that with some duct tape.

Slide the bar into the tank with the tank securely fastened to the bike for leverage. Remove the paint and point a light flat along the side so you can use the shadows to identify the position of the dent and your tip. Using the tunnel as leverage, gently push the edges of the dent first. Working yuor way inward. You should get it very close.

Follow up with a brass blunt punch to tap down a pry marks and high spots. Lastly, a fine file to flatten them if needed. If you need more curvature for the tip to reach the side, pull the bar out, heat it, bend it, let it cool.

I’ve done dozens of these tanks with this method (store bought tools). I gave them to a pal a couple of years ago who was starting in the business and needed a bumpstart. But I’ve made plenty of them following this method. The metal will move easier if warm, and don’t get in a rush, push, move, push a little, move, and so on. Don’t try to get it all out first push. Patience or you’ll make a worse mess..

The dent is out!! Thanks for the advice!





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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2019, 08:20:11 pm »
Did the dildo trick work?


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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2019, 08:23:52 pm »
Did the dildo trick work?


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Ha some bent rebar did the trick. I’ll let someone else test the dildo trick


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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2019, 11:36:04 pm »
Did the dildo trick work?


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I'm sure that chick could sit on the tank without knickers while tanks is attached to something, then just stretch legs and up she goes vacuum the dent away.  8)  :P
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