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Offline turboguzzi

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where is it all going to end?
« on: February 18, 2019, 04:46:05 am »
what's next, carbon pistons? :)


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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2019, 05:46:26 am »
Well that's certainly reduced to the minimum! :o  What is the application TG?
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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2019, 05:57:25 am »
I'd say 4 stroke motocross
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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2019, 06:10:02 am »
Pretty and disposable.

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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2019, 06:26:03 am »
Id have a thermal coating on the top of the piston to keep heat in the chamber. They look cool as hell, would be great for a road racer, if someone else was paying the bills!!
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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2019, 07:14:23 am »
I believe it's wsbk Panigale stuff.

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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2019, 08:28:06 am »
I believe it's wsbk Panigale stuff.

So someone else is paying the bills. Haha.
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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2019, 10:44:30 am »
I think Wiseco had it right with their caged piston design. Though I haven't heard anything new about them in quite a few years so the end result couldn't have been THAT good. That piston above needs to see a doctor she's a little to anorexic for me  ;)
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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2019, 10:51:59 am »
somewhere i have a couple of pistons left over from one of the foggy petronas bikes , it is so shallow you have to take the rings off to remove the gudgeon pin .
they didnt last long .

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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2019, 03:14:26 pm »
That is always the question/dilemma. Do you want ultra light & cool, (ring holder) or something that will last a while.

I guess it depends on whether it's MotoGP or old guys racing vintage.  ;D

I wonder if that piston is steel?

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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2019, 04:01:22 pm »
somewhere i have a couple of pistons left over from one of the foggy petronas bikes , it is so shallow you have to take the rings off to remove the gudgeon pin .
they didnt last long .

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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2019, 04:12:29 pm »
That is always the question/dilemma. Do you want ultra light & cool, (ring holder) or something that will last a while.

I guess it depends on whether it's MotoGP or old guys racing vintage.  ;D

I wonder if that piston is steel?
I was wondering the same thing Brent
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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2019, 04:23:00 pm »
That is always the question/dilemma. Do you want ultra light & cool, (ring holder) or something that will last a while.

I guess it depends on whether it's MotoGP or old guys racing vintage.  ;D

I wonder if that piston is steel?
I was wondering the same thing Brent

Ti maybe? given the application.
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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2019, 06:16:30 pm »
What amazes me is how this new technology always has a seed from the past.
Remember 4 valves per cylinder being cutting technology, but had flown overhead for years before.
I borrowed the picture from macvit7906 post under "mystery engine".
It's believed to be an antique Yoshimura two ring design.
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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2019, 06:34:28 pm »
It's believed to be an antique Yoshimura two ring design.
Why would we believe that when it says RSC right on it?
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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2019, 08:59:59 pm »
It's believed to be an antique Yoshimura two ring design.
Why would we believe that when it says RSC right on it?

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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2019, 10:47:43 am »
somewhere i have a couple of pistons left over from one of the foggy petronas bikes , it is so shallow you have to take the rings off to remove the gudgeon pin .
they didnt last long .

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that is bad news sam , will come over to see you one night .

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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2019, 11:50:51 am »
Any time mate, the kettle is always on for you Simon.
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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2019, 02:55:21 pm »
I think Wiseco had it right with their caged piston design. Though I haven't heard anything new about them in quite a few years so the end result couldn't have been THAT good. That piston above needs to see a doctor she's a little to anorexic for me  ;)

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Re: where is it all going to end?
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2019, 03:36:50 pm »
 I have an 8.1L gm gas motor in my GMC duallie truck it's got slipper skirt pistons and they didn't get the bores correct. I've been listening to piston slap longer than I care to. Should have paid for the diesel, at least there would be a reason for the noise. These would have been better with some skirts. GM removed the piston to cylinder clearance spec from their manuals to solve the problem. 
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