Author Topic: Honda CB72 (Benly) (Read 19771 times)

Dennis · « **Reply #25 on:** January 29, 2007, 09:53:01 PM »

Quote from: Jonesy on January 29, 2007, 07:39:12 PM

Here, Hahnda... A goal for you to work towards:

I love my little Benly!

Does this ever bring back memories from a long long time ago. My first Honda was a blue Benly, not sure what year or model model. I bought it around '66 or '67. All I can really remember about it was it was a 150cc, single carb, 4 speed, blue of course, looked just like the picture was and totally gutless, but I had a lot of fun with it.
The original seat cover fell apart and I found a scrap of red vinyl at an upholstery shop and a friend of a relative sewed up a beautiful seat cover, bright red with a white strap and piping.
Sold it to get something bigger, but can't remember what it was right now.

Anyone know what year and model my blue Honda was?

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #26 on:** January 29, 2007, 10:05:05 PM »

If it looked like Dans (Jonesy) it was the later one.
The early one had flat silencers and the down pipes/headers went further forward before sweeping back.
Also the early ones had a tach drive, worked off the right hand end of the camshaft.

Sam.

Dennis · « **Reply #27 on:** January 29, 2007, 10:27:08 PM »

Quote from: samcr750 on January 29, 2007, 10:05:05 PM

If it looked like Dans (Jonesy) it was the later one.
The early one had flat silencers and the down pipes/headers went further forward before sweeping back.
Also the early ones had a tach drive, worked off the right hand end of the camshaft.

Sam.

Thanks Sam, I don't remember the shape of the silencers. There was no tach, I have no idea whether it had a tach drive. I know that it was at least 2 or 3 years old when I acquired it (which possibly could have been as late as '68. What model years were "early"or "late".

Anyway, lots of fond memories of misspent youth.

Jonesy · « **Reply #28 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:18:59 AM »

Mine's a '66. According to the model guides, it was the last year the Benly was offered.

1964 was the dividing point between "early" and "later" models.

KB02 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:29:45 AM »

Quote from: samcr750 on January 29, 2007, 03:21:11 PM

Wow guys, now you're talking my sort of bikes.
As a few members know, I have been racing Benlys since the early 60s.
I have several different configureations of motors for use in road race and sprint events, through to methanol and Nitro motors for drag and top speed events.
Anyone needing any info on these motors, just give me a call.
I dont have any decent pics to post but if you go to www.thundersprint.com.... scroll down untill you find starting sprinting......then scroll down to the second pic,.....that is a pic of my big bore motored bike, out to a full 175cc.
It is very high compression and although it proved quite fast it would benefit from running on alcohol.
It was in the development stage when that pic was taken.

Sam.

P.S. I think my own head must be high comp as I love to consume alcohol Hic

It's nice to look at that page just to seee the other cool bikes. I love that '34 Norton!

Dennis · « **Reply #30 on:** January 30, 2007, 06:16:12 AM »

Quote from: Jonesy on January 30, 2007, 05:18:59 AM

Mine's a '66. According to the model guides, it was the last year the Benly was offered.

1964 was the dividing point between "early" and "later" models.

Thanks, I doubt mine was earlier than '64 so it was likely a "later" model. Like I said I remember that it was 150cc and definitely blue. I wonder how many of those years they were made in blue.
I recall a friend had a similar one, 1 model year different, in red, don't recall which was older, his or mine. I do remember that his was 160cc.

Do you know what different engine configurations were available?

hahnda · « **Reply #31 on:** January 30, 2007, 06:32:28 AM »

Quote from: Dennis on January 30, 2007, 06:16:12 AM

Quote from: Jonesy on January 30, 2007, 05:18:59 AM
Mine's a '66. According to the model guides, it was the last year the Benly was offered.

1964 was the dividing point between "early" and "later" models.

Thanks, I doubt mine was earlier than '64 so it was likely a "later" model. Like I said I remember that it was 150cc and definitely blue. I wonder how many of those years they were made in blue.
I recall a friend had a similar one, 1 model year different, in red, don't recall which was older, his or mine. I do remember that his was 160cc.

Do you know what different engine configurations were available?

Well the CA160 came out after the CA95. So yours would have been older. The CA95 came in red, blue, black and white. Same goes for the CA160.

The early CA95's had a different looking tank panel, no spot to mount rear blinkers like later ones, metal shock covers, and like Sam said they had a tach drive and square mufflers.

Kevin

bill440cars · « **Reply #32 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:00:07 AM »

Hey Kevin,

I remember seeing a picture of a larger CA (250 or 305, can't remember) that was modified to look similar to the Benly 125 Super Sport, but I can't remember where it was. Have you seen the one I'm talking about, I was gonna post it here if I could find it. Seems like it had a gas tank like the SS and a set of telescopic forks like a Super Hawk. I don't remember what else. If you have seen it and if you know where it is, could you post it? I'd appreciate it. It is a tough looking bike, in my opinion. Thanks. Bill

hahnda · « **Reply #33 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:08:18 AM »

This one?

bill440cars · « **Reply #34 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:48:51 AM »

Quote from: hahnda on January 30, 2007, 07:08:18 AM

This one?

That's it! I'm not much on the red seat but, other than that I think it's got a look that would have sold.

Thanks for posting it.

What do ya think Sam?

Or you could take the CA72 or77 front end, change it up to look like the CB92 and there ya go, A Benly 250 (or 304) Super Sport

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #35 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:14:49 PM »

Very neat and tidy, I'll bet a lot of hours went into building that.
It looks to be a mix of the two sports models CB92 and CB72.
Then the two tourers come into it, CA72 motor with single carb to fit inside the frame as the twin carbs would foul the frame.
Also the use of rectangular rear shocks, al-a CA95/CA72.
On the whole, it is a very nice looking special.

Sam.

bill440cars · « **Reply #36 on:** January 31, 2007, 05:12:52 PM »

Sam clued me into this one. Check it out, you'll have to use the link since I haven't been able to post them any other way..... Yet!! Later on, Bill

http://world.honda.com/collection-hall/2rrace/dreamcr71_1959.html

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #37 on:** January 31, 2007, 05:28:23 PM »

Thats the one Billy, note how alike the tanks are.

Sam.

bill440cars · « **Reply #38 on:** January 31, 2007, 06:44:29 PM »

Yeah Sam, I see what you mean. That is an interesting bike. Do you have, or know of any more
pictures that make it easier to see the details of the bike? I'd really like to see more of that front end.
Both the CB92 and the CR71 interesting shaped gas tanks. Thanks again for cluing me in to the CR71
Sam.

Later on, Bill

Jonesy · « **Reply #39 on:** February 01, 2007, 04:51:38 PM »

In the back of my Honda repair manual they show the parts and part #'s for the factory race kit for the Benly. I wish a complete kit was available...

hahnda · « **Reply #40 on:** February 01, 2007, 07:17:50 PM »

Which Honda repair manual and is it in digital format? And if not can it be? Thanks

Jonesy · « **Reply #41 on:** February 01, 2007, 07:20:59 PM »

I scanned them...

hahnda · « **Reply #42 on:** February 01, 2007, 07:57:46 PM »

Really good stuff there. What manual is that?

Jonesy · « **Reply #43 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:45:05 AM »

Both the Honda 125-150cc Shop Manual and the Clymer version (larger with red cover) have the racing parts section.

Jugghead · « **Reply #44 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:03:25 PM »

And here is the Benly redone for the modern age
http://world.honda.com/news/1998/2980220b.html
Unfortunately, we can't get these in the US either. I would like the 90S with the 50S seat on there.
I would also buy the 400SS that has been floating around, too.
poor us, when will honda learn they could sell about 1000 units to the members here?

malcolmgb · « **Reply #45 on:** February 03, 2007, 01:19:21 PM »

what a great nostalgic post this is. I had both a CB92 and a CB72 back in the 60's.
I even managed to buy a used race seat and exhaust for the CB92 back then, but sadly without baffles the exhaust was too loud and attracted too much attention from the law. About 8 years ago I saw the person I sold the CB92 to, he told me he had sold it on only months before.

not sure if this is of any use to anyone here but;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-125-150-CB92-CB95-CA95-PARTS-MANUAL-CATALOG-LIST_W0QQitemZ330080425560QQihZ014QQcategoryZ122249QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

bill440cars · « **Reply #46 on:** February 03, 2007, 07:48:43 PM »

Hey Malcolm,

Never had a CB92 but I did have a CB72 and I really liked that bike. Wish I still had it.
I always find it interesting to see and hear about the old bikes. Brings back a lot of memories.

Later on, Bill

Jonesy · « **Reply #47 on:** February 04, 2007, 06:27:43 PM »

Check this out.. (some have seen it before):

(I tried to embed it, but it wouldn't work....

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Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #48 on:** February 05, 2007, 07:40:24 PM »

Quote from: Jonesy on February 01, 2007, 04:51:38 PM

In the back of my Honda repair manual they show the parts and part #'s for the factory race kit for the Benly. I wish a complete kit was available...

Danny, the same factory race kit was also made for the 150, but as only a few hundred CB95s were made, I dont think you will ever find the race kit parts.
However, the race cam that was made for the CB92 (125) ended up as being the same cam that was fitted to the roadsters.
I would think that the cam fitted to the early CA95 would be the same race cam (not 100% certain) that was made for the CB95s.
If anyone has a spare cam from the early model (with revcounter drive) or a later cam (without) I would like to get hold of both for evaluation.
I would be glad to pay all cost of shipping from and returning to the US if you don't want to sell.
If you do have and want to sell, I will buy and pay shipping.
Kevin (hahnda) PMed me asking what tuning parts might be available, I told him none as the early CA95 was the same motor as fitted to the CB95
Only by fitting the race kit that is not fully available will you get any performance increase, other than having performance parts custom made.

Sam.

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Author Topic: Honda CB72 (Benly) (Read 19771 times)