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Offline JP

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anyone know about mythology?
« on: April 04, 2007, 09:36:05 AM »
I'm trying to write a book, and I am researching evil gods of various different mythology.  I need to find a good evil god but it is harder than I thought it would be.  It doesn't need to be anything specific such as Greek or Roman, just needs to actually be a man or woman type character.  Not just some monster like the Fenis the wolf from northern mythology, or Kukulcan the feathered serpent from Maya myth (who wasn't even evil).

Any help would be appreciated,
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PS- I already know about Hades and Loki, not gonna work. 
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Re: anyone know about mythology?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2007, 09:52:59 AM »
Ahriman from Zoroastrianism.

Anubis and Seth (or Set) from Egyptian myth.

Kali from Hinduism.

Discordia (Roman) and Eris (Greek) goddess of evil and strife

I think the modern concepts of evil and good have evolved into something completely different from our ancient counterparts...  Greeks for example didn't regard their Gods as perfect and clean the way we do (Jesus vs. Zeus?).  So finding a parallel between modern and classical evil is going to be foggy at best.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2007, 09:59:30 AM »
Malsumus from Abenaki mythology of the Algonquians.

He is quite literally the "evil" counterpart of the religion (his twin brother Gluskab being the "good" side)
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Re: anyone know about mythology?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2007, 11:56:01 AM »
Loki, Norse god of mischievousness
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Re: anyone know about mythology?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2007, 12:09:16 PM »
How about Ramses II.
I'm sure he thought he was a god.
And he had 96 kids--so he was a good one too.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2007, 12:49:55 PM »
Anubis and Set had a specific purpose in Egyptian mythology. Set was the god of the dessert. So as evil goes not really but one to be respected because of the power of the dessert and how quick it can rob you of your life. Anubis was the god of the dead and rules the underworld. Not really evil again, just protected and watched over the souls (or Ka). As far as Ramses II, he was a king and because he was a king he was considered a god in physical form and respected as one...

Maybe if you could be more specific on what you want to evil god or mythological representative to do or behave, I could help. I have around 20 or so books on mythology in my library at home...

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2007, 01:39:09 PM »
Didn't Caligula THINK he was a god...?

What about modern mythology?  Lex Luthar for instance?  Krushev?  George W Bush  (OK- just kidding [mostly])
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2007, 02:26:36 PM »
I think you should not forget TIA - he deserves a mention.......... :D

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2007, 02:54:56 PM »
Wow!  No one should ever underestimate the powers of mass communication.

Okay, at first I wasn't sure how people would respond- but now I'm a little more confident and I will spill a few more beens.

Without going too deep, I'll try to give a little taste of what the book is about so that you can get a feel for what I am wanting to do.  It is a superhero type book, but for grown-ups.  His powers will be based on the idea that the myths are not myths at all, but real beings that once lived on this planet and reproduced with the human inhabatents.  When introduced into the human gene pool, the traits that produced excessive strenth, flying, or whatever were drowned out.

The main character will be a decsendant of Apollo from his mothers side, and the powers from this side of the liniage will be activated by large tattoo of a Phoenix on the characters chest thus releasing the subliminal powers that have been there all along.  

His Fathers side is where I am drawing a blank.  The mother suffers a rape from him, so he is a darker character, but he needs to be a descendant of some dark god figure in order for my idea to work.  The idea is that the reason the powers are active with this one guy is because he is born from parents that both have strong liniage to very powerful beings and the genes from different spectrums thrive on each other.

It is always hard to share your ideas with someone else.  I take this stuff seriously, and although it feels silly to right it on here, you guys are being helpful.  So please, don't tease me on this- I feel really vulnerable because this is my first REAL attempt at writing.
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Re: anyone know about mythology?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2007, 04:24:05 PM »
What about Soichiro?

Maybe he is not a mythological figure but a case could be made that he is either a God or a demon. I'm sure that many of us have a lot less money as result of his magical power!  ;D

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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2007, 04:46:45 PM »
JP,

sorry if my little distraction was not what was required - but i dislike anything that makes me think too much - and I do not read much anymore...but I will try and come up with something for you...... :)

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2007, 04:54:32 PM »
here is a nice little link for you - bit of reading though

http://www.angelfire.com/moon/darkchamber/monthsub/msu_under.htm

hope this helps you in your quest...

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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2007, 08:45:23 AM »
Hmmm... You'd think if his mother had Apollo's genes, she'd be able to run from a rapist.  Maybe he got her while she was sleeping... 
I think you could make something up.  Going back far enough, with the level that "science" was at, people really believed  what is today considered mythology.  Then, it was very real and they lived it every day.  Critters and beings of all kinds were all over the place- the fact that they never saw them just proved they had magic and mystical powers.  Often times, people just saw what they wanted to; sailors seeing walruses and thinking they were mermaids, for instance (they liked their women much bigger back then, anyway).  People used to leave leftovers on the back steps for the faeries.  When the food was gone in the morning, that just proved their existance.  There were examples of intermixing that I don't remember the names of, but there was the half man/half horse, for instance, and satirs.   Some little tweak like an extra vertibrae at the bottom of the spinal column that, centuries ago, was the beginning of a tail, but is now a vestigial leftover that makes it more comfortable to ride a motorcycle rather than a car (especially sports cars with out all the seat padding.
OK. A little water in the face helped.  maybe i went off in the wrong direction?
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2007, 10:00:23 AM »
JP,

I've got Horus available for your book jacket.
Direct from his home in the temple at Edfu, Egypt.
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2007, 10:31:36 AM »
I asked my Nigerian friend (who was just here drinking beer with me, so it might be bull$hit) and he claims the coolest god in his country is Shango or Chango. I let him read your post and he's sais it's perfect. Here's why:
1. His father raped his mother, she basically exploded and dropped 14 kids. Shango was one of them.
2. He's the god of thunder and a warrior. He also likes music and drums.
3. He's a ladies man, he had three wifes and some of them were real #$%*es.
4. Some believe that he was once a King , and became so unbearable through rapacity, cruelty, and tyranny that he got send off and turned into a god somehow.
5. Being the god of thunder, some believe he throws "hot stones" from his palace in the sky. If your house gets struck by lightning (in some remote parts of Nigeria), worshippers of Shango think that's a signal to start looting it. Bummer.  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2007, 11:03:04 AM »
Eureka!  Ieism is the man!!!!!!

Really though, you've come through for me in the past, too.  That is PERFECT!  I will begin my research on this Nigerian god figure.  Wow, I am so much more excited about this now.

And Ernie, the powers don't surface in the mother or father because they are sort of just carriers.  They are revealed in the main character due to the combining of the two gene pools and a tramatic experience.
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