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Offline Joao_f3rr3ira

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Is this the right reg/rec for my CB750??
« on: March 23, 2019, 12:07:34 PM »
Hey guys!

I am rebuilding a CB750 F2 SS. I have a Ricks Reg/Rec as shown in the images, Shorai lithium battery (LFX14A2 BS12), Dyna ignition and coils.
I'm about to start doing all the wiring on the bike and as it is my first time doing it (and electrical components are not my strong point!! >:() I took some time to do some more research and found other kinds of Reg/Rec's that are specific for lithium batteries and have a different set of cables coming off of them. My question is, can I still use the regulator with the battery I have or do I have to have a specific regulator for lithium batteries. If I can still use the one I have, can someone tell me how the wiring is?

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Offline TwoTired

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Re: Is this the right reg/rec for my CB750??
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2019, 12:58:29 PM »
You can pound a square peg in a round hole.  But, should you?

Lithium battery tech uses different voltages than Lead acid type.  So, in technical terms a VR (Voltage regulator) for lead acid shouldn't be used for Lithium.

The cross match will never be ideal.  But, it may "work" well enough for you to be comfortable with it.

Your lithium battery will have a spec for "never exceed" voltage to it.  It will also have a never go below voltage for it.  I don't know of any Motorcycle VR that will protect the battery from too low voltage.  Like if you leave the lights on, expect battery damage of some sort.  Lead acid batteries don't like this much either but, they can stand abuse better than lithium.

Is your VR adjustable?  If so adjust it for 14.4 V max and your lithium should be happy.  Many Lead acid VRs have fixed output max at 14.5 to 14.7V.  Technically this is hard on lithium.  It may survive a good while with this, or not, as it is is outside manufacturers specs.  You take the responsibility.   It will unlikely blow up.  It may just die prematurely and leave you stranded somewhere.  Or maybe not.  It's undefined territory.  Feel like a pioneer?

Added to the question is what your bike can do in the way of power distribution.  The VReg can only respond to what is reported to it at it's terminals.  If between battery and VR there is a voltage drop of 2 volts.  The VR will try and make its output 14.5V.  If the battery is actually at 16.5V, the VR won't know it, and cook the battery.  Lead acid battery tech is more tolerant of this than lithium.  But, you won't be doing a lead acid battery any favors by doing this, either.  The wiring of the bike is another component of the charging system that must be scrutinized.

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Re: Is this the right reg/rec for my CB750??
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2019, 06:47:04 PM »
Rick's also has a lithium specific reg/rect that is plug-and-play with the CB 750 harness: part# 14-100.
This unit has a lower set voltage than the 10-100, which is for lead-acid batteries, at 14V +/- .2V. The set voltage for the 10-100 is close to 15V, IIRC. Shorai says the "ideal" charging voltage is 13.9-14.4V, and should not exceed 14.8V.
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Offline Joao_f3rr3ira

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Re: Is this the right reg/rec for my CB750??
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2019, 09:09:49 AM »
Many thanks for your help guys!