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Offline RRBuGGz

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Starter/kill question
« on: April 18, 2019, 07:37:36 pm »
I’ve got a 5 button setup wired up and every thing works fine except engine stop.  The manual says double tapping the starter button kills the motor. Mine sounds like the starter wants to turn and the bike stays running. I’m using the solenoid below.

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Re: Starter/kill question
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2019, 03:12:14 am »
If the solenoid pictured starts the bike fine, then a double-tap will also KILL the bike.

Have you configured the MU in the MENU to use 5 buttons? Are you using an M-Button?

The double-tap needs a clean sequence of pushing the button, twice. Push. Push. Not push-push.

There are other sequences of multi-push that also trigger other functions. Have you tried those too? Do they work?
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Re: Starter/kill question
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2019, 05:42:56 pm »
Yes I’m using the 5 button configuration and also using an M button. The only other function I tried using multi push on was putting unit into pairing mode which worked fine with the horn button. I didn’t realize there were other multi push functions besides start/kill. What are other functions I can try out?

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Re: Starter/kill question
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 03:38:24 am »
Where is the M-Button installed on your bike? If it’s not within steel bars, it will be a source or repeated issues. This is clearly stated in the documentation.
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Re: Starter/kill question
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 04:32:14 am »
The m button in inside the bars.   Weird everything else seems to work consistently. Just this one function.  I’m trying to avoid having to wire another switch to the kill output.

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Re: Starter/kill question
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2019, 05:35:20 am »
Page 10 lists the mult-press functions by function type. (I’m assuming you’re using Blue since you mentioned “pairing”)

If you refer to page 23, it shows exactly how you shuold be connected to the Blue with M-Button. There’s a specific condition for using KILL explained there.
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Re: Starter/kill question
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2019, 06:26:43 pm »
M-Button wiring looks correct in the handlebars and wired into the kill input on the unit.  Tested some of the other button functions and everything works fine.

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Re: Starter/kill question
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2019, 09:22:37 pm »
So I was playing around with the unit tonight. When I hit the start button I see the Led light for the ignition lights up when the bike starts and when I double click the light goes off as if I understand it correctly is the correct. So that leads me to believe that the multifunction feature of the start button is working  properly but the bike is not shutting off. Any ideas?  Maybe the starter solenoid isn’t wired up correctly?

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Re: Starter/kill question
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2019, 03:57:57 am »
It’s difficult to diagnose your issue without a diagram of you have it wired. Perhaps at least some clear pictures of the MU, solenoid, and switch gear would help.
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Re: Starter/kill question
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2019, 06:29:08 pm »
It’s difficult to diagnose your issue without a diagram of you have it wired. Perhaps at least some clear pictures of the MU, solenoid, and switch gear would help.

So figured it out. Was a careless mistake on my part. I was following the wiring diagram/video from Revival cycles which used the older non Bluetooth M-Unit. In that diagram they had ignition tied to the aux output on the older M-Unit and I blindly did the same. So swapped my ignition wire to the ignition output on my blue unit and all works fine now. Thanks for taking the time to help out.