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Re: He saw me coming.....
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2007, 11:12:29 PM »
Its great that you posted. Please continue to post. WHO RIPPED YOU OFF???
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2007, 11:16:39 PM »
I agree. The uninformed, male or female, get ripped off. However, I am male,relatively informed and still got ripped off by the mechanic I had used and trusted for 5 years (shoddy head gasket work that he over charged me on). When I realised and went back six weeks later, he had sold the business and was gonzo! Crap happens especially when you are dealing with cars. It is the worst business to have to get involved in whether buying, selling or fixing.

As for stopping to help someone, I seem to have a propensity for damsels in distress. I have stopped to help women of all ages probably 6 or 7 times in the last 10 yrs. All but one were wearing a tight skirt and high heals and two were dressed like this in heavy snow!! Have they ever thought to keep a pair of flats in the back seat or, in winter, some snow boots and coat? I remarked on this to one Russian lady and got the proverbial "Whatever". The remaining woman was a teen, appropriately dressed and she knew what to do to change the tire but couldn't budge the lug nuts.

My point is that you cannot take these things personally. I have learned that if you go into something honestly and with good intentions, it is not about you. It is about the other person. Then the 11th Commandment comes into play: What goes around will always come around.
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2007, 12:47:40 AM »
MR Breeze youre driving me mad the DAMN mechanic ripped me off....*......here in aussie u need to get a safety certificate to get your car reregistered.....2,000 dollars later the cars ready to go for a certificate...they give a list of things wrong still....one of the items was the motor needs degreasing....now where in the world does that in any shape or form play a safety factor? am i missing something here....

ok and you want more info?

my ex took this car which is my sons to a mechanic to have the motor reconditioned and all things wrong with the car fixed....=$2000 dollars..with me?

we go pick it up and get it registered so my son can drive it, but to register it ...we need a safety certificate..ok...so its taken to the local mechanic  by my brother and is told needs a few things done, so he just goes ok....so I take it down cos theyre all away and the mechanic looks it over , and says to me heres a list...on the list is
a)  motor needs degreasing
b) few tears in the roof cloth
c)cv joints (ok i accept this) etc etc

now firstly u pay 2000 dollars to get the car fixed and ready right?...then youre told they wont give a safety cert til all thats done...since when does degreasing a motor or rips in the roof cloth ever have anything to do with a safety certificate, this list was another 1000 dollars of work...some of it purely cosmetic...i cant justify that....

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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2007, 01:04:11 AM »
I know the feeling Serenity. When my other half took his lastest bike for a roadworthy, it had a "dangerous" tear in the seat cover (he had taped it up with duct tape but it was still "dangerous". Theydid agree to pass that as we had a new cover on order. The bracket for the fairing (non-standard) covered the compliance plate on the front fork head. The shop was given hubby's mobile number and asked to call him as he was working nearby with a ute full of tools so could sort any problems. As soon as the guy encountered the compliance plate problem he stopped, no phone call, nothing. Hubby goes to pick the bike up at the end of the day, no roadworthy, no list of checked items.
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Re: He saw me coming.....
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2007, 01:29:40 AM »
Serenity, what do you mean when you say 'motives are not always as pure as the driven snow'
Thats sexist and I'll complain some more when I've finished drooling over your avatar.

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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2007, 01:42:41 AM »
 :D To funny....then please extend me the same courtesy old biker and allow me the privilege of drooling over yours.... :P :P :P....very good pun

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« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2007, 02:56:25 AM »
 :-\   

It works both ways. I go to the same bikeshop as my girlfriend, i've been a "customer" for 5 years there now. When I go there, I have to beg them to have a look at my bike (the 550F, they refuse to even glance at my Guzzi). They can never fix anything cheap, or fast or decent. They refuse to sell me parts. They tell me things like: "it doesn't matter what oil you put in that bike, as long as you don't piss in it." And they are generally very unfriendly to me.

Now my girlfriend walks in with her bike, and they're friendly, roll the thing into the workshop and start working on it right away. The other day she changed her fronttire (well I did really), and I send her over to the shop to get the wheel rebalanced. They did it for free! If I tried that they would spit on me .

 
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« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2007, 09:23:36 AM »
This sceerio sounds familiar, and it goes on all the time. There IS however, an authority that vehicle inspectors must answer to. In the state of Missouri in the U.S.A., the motor vehicle inspection program is governed by the Missouri State Highway Patrol. Any time a question/controversy occurs concerning a vehicle failure, they interpret what's correct as per state stuate. Period. I would think that there is certainly some branch of your government that is responsible for the enforcement of the laws concerning such matters. As a licensed inspector myself I can assure you that your state/terretorial authorities will confront a "crooked" inspection station with a fine/revocation of license/and possible jail time if the infractions are bad enough. I don't know what the law is where you are, but a ripped headliner and greasy engine hardly sounds like a safety issue. Just to add, from an automotive technician of 30 years, "Fear not madamme, we aint all bad" ;D Remember, repair shops are like any other business and there will always be corruption. I do believe that most are honest and are overshadowed by the corrupt minority. It may take a little time to seek out a good one, but it's certainly worth it.

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« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2007, 10:43:34 AM »
A ripped headliner or a greasy engine shouldn't be part of a safety inspection unless oil is just pouring out on the ground or the ripped headliner is hanging in the driver's face. If someone were to charge $2000 to fix those kind of things,they are trying to rip you off. Maybe shop around for a better deal or spend the 2K on a better car? Sorry about the misunderstanding on my part. I just didn't catch  what was going down.
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« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2007, 01:06:15 PM »
Serenity, you're not alone.  I took my CB650's head in to get valves installed at a local shop the Honda dealership recommended for older bikes (quoted $50).  I had already lapped the valves and cleaned up the head prior to going in, even labeled all the pre-provided parts in baggies for a quick install.  But I came out with a $150 bill because he had found a "burr" in the aluminum head and decided to go ahead and file it down, and he went ahead and checked the valve guides to make sure they were OK.  For some reason that tripled his quote.  I was anxious to get the head back on the bike (since it took him 3 days to do it) so I paid the $150, but I never said anything.

He must have seen me coming...  Nice dressed guy, overtly friendly, in a hurry to get the work done...  I can run up his bill and he won't say #$%*!  Suffice it to say I learned my lesson from that experience  ;D  I will never stand by silently again.  At least you seemed to have learned this lesson already  ;)

I have a feeling his business isn't doing too well these days, and it's probably because he pulls stunts like that on a regular basis.  I guess he forgot to factor in the cost of bad PR from unhappy customers.
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« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2007, 04:15:23 PM »
Okay, here's one reason why you have a hard time finding an honest mechanic.

Back in the mid seventies, I started my own Wrenching business.  Stuggling to gain a business base, I charge 10-20% less than local shops AND pass on my parts house discount on to my customers.  Still struggling, though.
Woman brings me her big block V8 mustang, runs like crap on 7 cylinders.  I look at it, decide it needs a tuneup and she agrees to the price.  Number 8 spark plug is a #$%* to change, you have to undo the motor mount and jack the engine off the frame to change # 8 spark plug.  It still had the original FoMoCo Autolite spark plug in it with very little electrode left.   The previous shops changed all the plugs but #8 on their tune-up service.  I finish the tuneup and deliver tha car back to her, same agreed to price.  She is ecstatic about how well the car runs (it was a pretty fast car!).  And she come by next day to laude praises about the car and my work.  I think, "great! a return customer and maybe some referals."

A week later I get a phone call.  "The car's broken what did you do to it?" 
I go over to find that she (or perhaps her boyfriend) had destroyed the rear ring and pinion set of the car.   I was expected to repair and replace the rear end for free because it was fine until after I worked on it.

I quit the business over this and a few other incidents very similar to it.

But, do NOT think auto shops only pick on women.

In the 80's, I bring my 71 Mustang into the shop for new tires.  While up on the lift ,the mechanic brings me over to examine the ball joint play.  He jimmies it around and shows me about 1/8 inch play in the joint.   Tells me it needs major front end work, new ball joints, idler arms and strut bushings while its apart.
I ask, "how much play do think there is in the joint"?  He says, "nearly an 1/8 of an inch."  I ask if he knows what the allowed tolerance is?  He says "I don't know but that is too much, it's about to fall out on the highway!"  I tell him I checked those joints a month ago myself and the book says the wear limits are .250, or 1/4 of an inch. (I had checked the front end completely before having new tires put on)  "It doesn't look worn out to me."  His jaw visibly dropped.  I walked back to the waiting area where 25 other people were standing to also get tires put on their cars and other servicing, too.
I watch as the Mech goes and talks to someone else.  Turns out it's the manager, who also looks at the car's ball joints and then walks over to me to ask why I want to drive such an unsafe car on the public roads, Making sure everyone else in the waiting area heard the conversation.  I ask him to show me the tolerance spec for that car's ball joints.  Raising his voice he proclaims that he has 25 years in the business and doesn't need to see a spec sheet to know that my car has worn out ball joints and is unsafe to drive on the highways.  And, legally, he can't even give the car back to me because it is so dangerous.  I tell him I have a front end shop that I frequent and I'll take it to them for their evaluation.  He proclaims sarcasticly,  "Well, if you've got someone you can TRUST...."  and walks away shaking his head.  They finish putting on the tires and I leave, missing out paying them $500 to rebuild my Mustangs's front end.

I took the car to my trusted front end shop for it's scheduled alignment and asked, specifically, to thoroughly check the front end components. I had noted that the idler arm was a bit looser than I thought appropriate and told them to change it and tell me if it needed any further components.

They did the checkout and aligment and returned the car to me stating; "It just needed alignment, ball joints are fine with plenty of wear left in them.  While the idler arm has a bit of vertical motion, it doesn't change the way the tires track, or effect tire wear.  We'll change it if you insist.  But, it really doesn't need it."  When I told them of my previous encounter, they could only shake their heads.

I drove the car another 50000 miles and the ball joints, or for that matter none of the front end components beside shocks, ever needed replacing.  Great tire wear, too.

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« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2007, 07:09:51 PM »
Oh MAN! that was funny.   I put one of those new ALexus SUVs up on the rack and the wheels fall down as the suspension stretches.   The woman caomes running over screaming that I ruined her suspension.  So I pat her hand and reassure her.  The car comes back down and she's yelling- YELLING- that she washes the car a lot and she never saw that much tire before and she's taking me to court because I ruined her suspension.  I told her to have it checked at the dealership and I'll buy her a new car.

Another guy with a new Land Rover wouldn't let me put the car up on the lift because - again- the suspension would be ruined.  This time I just let it go.  I asked him, "So- this big macho car; You get a flat tire and you can't even change the wheel because the suspension will be shot when it goes up on the jack?"  I really wanted to ask if his mother knows he took the car...
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« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2007, 08:27:01 PM »
whew after reading all these I feel better, some funny stories, thanks for sharing ;D

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« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2007, 08:58:16 PM »
I worked at a gas station/garage part-time for 15 years, (army pay isn't enough to support a family and a fleet of bikes) and discovered that most men are just as dumb as women when it comes to mechanical problems, the only real difference that I could discern was that it was easier to convince a man that it needed urgent attention.

A woman drove in one day wanting to use the coin operated steam cleaner to clean her engine. I gave her the gun and told her how to use it, anyway, she came back in 5 minutes later screaming that somehow my steam cleaner had stripped the paint off her engine, engine bay and under the hood itself, and also along the top of the fenders!

After she calmed down, she told me that she'd previously checked the oil but left the oil cap off the engine and so she'd splashed oil all over her engine etc, so prior to coming ober to my garage she'd sprayed a full can of oven cleaner ("Cuts thru grease and Grime!") over the affected area. It still took me a half hour to explain that oven cleaner is just spray-on caustic soda, and also an excellent paint stripper, ha ha!

Another woman drove in one day in a newish Toyota 4 wheel drive with nice spoked alloy wheels, and her brake discs were screeching and glowing red from the metal to metal contact caused by her pads having completely worn off, anyway I told her that her car wasn't safe to drive in that condition and she should leave it parked there and we'd fix it for her, so she asked "how much" and I quoted her for pads and just machining the discs, (as it turned out later, both front discs were screwed) but she then accused me of virtually trying to "con" her into unnecessary repairs, so she gave me a mouthfull of abuse and drove off in a foul mood.

A few days later her husband (who'd been interstate on business for a couple of weeks) had the car towed back to my garage to have the work done, incredibly, she'd continued to drive it for another couple of days until the cops pulled her over and cited the car with a defect notice. I guess it's that "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" thing, ha ha! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: He saw me coming.....
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2007, 09:54:24 PM »
she'd sprayed a full can of oven cleaner ("Cuts thru grease and Grime!") over the affected area. It still took me a half hour to explain that oven cleaner is just spray-on caustic soda, and also an excellent paint stripper....oh thats bad even I wouldnt do that...tho I did see a movie where they poured a bottle of beer in the radiator   :-\

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« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2007, 01:12:40 AM »
It's also worth noting that caustic soda dissolves aluminium. Back in my racing days, if I had a piston pick up (it was a two stroke racer) caustic soda would take all the alum off the cast iron liner and leave it as clean as silk. A new piston would put things back to normal.
So caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) will quietly destroy your nice engine case.
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« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2007, 01:51:14 AM »
Its a very distinguished picture, you have a very happy smile...thank you for sharing with us.

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« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2007, 03:30:45 PM »
We know where the old in front of biker comes from now..... ;)

Are you sure she wanted a picture of you and not your bike?

Least a naked pic on your bike she could have seen the bike..... ;D
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« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2007, 04:56:20 PM »
These stories are why I hate customers ;D!! I work in a body shop and everyone knows exactly what their repairs will cost before we even start. If anything extra comes up, we call right away!!
Its hard for me to believe you have a son old enouph to drive serenity? ;)
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« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2007, 05:31:59 PM »
she'd sprayed a full can of oven cleaner ("Cuts thru grease and Grime!") over the affected area. It still took me a half hour to explain that oven cleaner is just spray-on caustic soda, and also an excellent paint stripper....oh thats bad even I wouldnt do that...tho I did see a movie where they poured a bottle of beer in the radiator   :-\
I used to work at a shop in Lander ,Wyo. My boss had a newspaper clipping of him and a buddy pouring a beer on an engine fire.They just came out of the store with a pack of beer and some gal in the parking lot had a flame on coming out of the hood. One of the funniest shop stories that comes to mind was in Las Vegas. Some guy brings in an old beat to hell Suburu wagon and says he has some front end problems. I take this thing around the block and it is just makin all kinds of grindy racket. It is litteraly ripping the steering wheel out out of my hands. Back at the shop,up on the rack,I see the worst cv joints I have ever seen.Boots look to have been gone for years and these dried out carcasses that are half welded togther are staring at me. I start the car and run it up in the air. The motion of the wheels spinning has the car steering itself aimlessly. I show this dude whats going on and he asks how much? I send him inside for an estimate for 2 rebuilt halfshafts and R&R labor. He couldn't afford it so he takes the car and continued to drive it. I'm sure he didn't get too much farther in that car.
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« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2007, 07:03:51 PM »
that car sounded bad sad he didnt have the money to fix even sadder he had to keep driving it....and sad the beer had to be wasted putting out the fire ;D glad it wasnt rum and coke or cheap nasty wine, id of had to think twice before throwing it on a fire.

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« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2007, 07:42:06 PM »
HA!!! HA!!! .....my boss said that gal bought them a whole pack of beer to replace only 2 beers they dumped to kill the fire!!!Isn't funny how some people meet??? The guy with the Suburu....yeah,bummer he had to keep driving it but it was so bad that I would have parked it till I had the money....I thought it was dangerous!!!!
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« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2007, 08:06:20 PM »
And then there was the time I was half asleep with my feet up on the counter at the gas station on an unusually wet Sunday afternoon, when I witnessed a collision between a young driver who'd driven straight thru an instesection and "T boned" a guy in a new Ford company car.

The poor kid was distraught, and I felt for him, he was driving his moms car and no joke, the rain was crashing down, so I doubt if he could have even seen the traffic lights go red. Anyway, his moms car was dead, and the car he hit had both passenger side doors shoved in at least a foot, the roof was bowed up, and the floor was bowed down.

I called the cops to direct traffic around the mess (they didn't want to come out even though they were only 3 blocks away) and they only showed up after the rain stopped 40 minutes later, after the two trucks had arrived. Anyway, the kid watched forlornly as his moms car was winched onto the tray, but the other dick was apparently in a hurry, so just drove off!

I couldn't believe it, that car was stuffed, and it wobbled down the road on two bent rims, with no hope of still being in a roadworthy condtion! If some people were pets, you just wouldn't feed them...............  ;D  
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« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2007, 08:26:06 PM »
Or you'd just put them to sleep,, or take em out in the country to go HUNTIN!! :-\ :-\
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« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2007, 09:02:22 PM »
Or you'd just put them to sleep,, or take em out in the country to go HUNTIN!! :-\ :-\

Or tow 'em behind your car like Chevy Chase style, like in "Vacation", ha ha! (oops, maybe I shouldn't have said that?) ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)