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Offline nickjtc

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Clone motorcycles and other ramblings
« on: January 29, 2007, 11:57:12 AM »
I went to our 'local' big motorcycle show in Abbotsford yesterday. For the first time ever I joined 100+ other enthusiasts on two coaches organised by the local Yamaha shop, and let someone else do the driving.

As I walked around the show I couldn't help but notice how many manufacturers seem to be copying each other in the name of what is supposedly popular. Is it my imagination, or are there more V-twin cruisers than ever being foisted on the public? I have to admit up front that cruisers are not to my taste, but surely a potential customer must be totally baffled by the choices out there. Perhaps that's a good thing.....?

And the repli-racers seem to be spawning clones left right and centre.....

On reflection I suppose nothing really changes in the world of motorcycling, because when I started riding in the early '70's the punter only had one choice of machine, across the engine size spectrum, and that was what we now call a 'standard' or naked bike.

The machines that caught my eye:

The selection of classic Brit bikes on the British M/C Owners Club stand...including an identical (if slightly older) '71 Commando like mine. (Mental note: got to change the colour, since black/gold is very common). Also a nice Norton Dominator, Bonneville, BSA Gold star (I think) and BSA Rocket 3.

The Honda stand had all of the new stuff, but also a trio of classics, including an early '60s CL77 Scrambler, a 750 racer and a Super Cub.

Of the modern stuff the only bikes that caught my eye were the new Versys and KLR650 from Kawasaki and the updated BMW650 singles.

Triumph dropped the ball, big time, by not even being there, and the only dealer stand which had Triumphs on display had no brochures.

As we walked out to the coach afterwards we passed the lines of parked bikes left by those flatlanders who are lucky enough to be riding at this time of year. There were 20-30 different bikes parked side by side and they all looked exactly the same!

BOF, aren't I?

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Re: Clone motorcycles and other ramblings
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2007, 12:07:58 PM »
There is almost nothing out there I would really want to own. A goldwing is always kinda nice but huge.  honda makes a bike called the 599 and it is a stripped down rocket, though not quite the forward lean, and an in-line 4 if I remember. Suzuki also has one but I cant remember the name.  Like you though, not a big cruiser fan at all.

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2007, 02:03:59 PM »
Same thing at the NYC motorcycle show.  It was chopper central besides the big factories there.  As a Triumph fan I was shocked they were not there.  To have the motorcycle of the year everywhere,  Daytona 675 and not show up at any show is just crazy.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2007, 03:33:51 PM »
Wel triumph is owned by polaris if I remember right and I suppose they are in full swing with making snowmobiles and are too busy to care about their bikes.

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2007, 05:10:10 PM »
I'm with you guys.  When I decided to ride again last year, I had no interest in the new bikes I saw (though the wife did buy a Shadow for herself).  I appreciate the technological advances; but the bike designs leave me cold for the most part.  Not much real character.

Guess that's why we all hang out here, eh?
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Re: Clone motorcycles and other ramblings
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2007, 07:48:21 PM »
actually it is Victory that is owned by Polaris, unless there has been a major conglomeration in the last year and they bought triumph

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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2007, 08:12:57 PM »
I don't think V-twins are being foisted on anybody- they can't make them fast enough.  Same old story, though- individuate by joining a club.  Everybody who has something to rebel about seems to do it better in a group that all looks the same.  I think maybe it's because it makes it harder for snipers to pick one target out?

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2007, 08:28:27 PM »
I don't think V-twins are being foisted on anybody- they can't make them fast enough.  Same old story, though- individuate by joining a club.  Everybody who has something to rebel about seems to do it better in a group that all looks the same.  I think maybe it's because it makes it harder for snipers to pick one target out?


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Re: Clone motorcycles and other ramblings
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2007, 11:31:03 PM »
There is almost nothing out there I would really want to own. A goldwing is always kinda nice but huge.  honda makes a bike called the 599 and it is a stripped down rocket, though not quite the forward lean, and an in-line 4 if I remember. Suzuki also has one but I cant remember the name.  Like you though, not a big cruiser fan at all.

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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2007, 11:33:33 PM »
Wel triumph is owned by polaris if I remember right and I suppose they are in full swing with making snowmobiles and are too busy to care about their bikes.

 ??? ???  ???
Don't think so.
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2007, 12:59:50 AM »
I have to agree.  I went to the music city motorcycle show a few weekends ago, and it was 99.994% Harley Davidson look-alike "custom chopper" day.  Of about 200 bikes, there was ONE CB750 chopper, and ONE Triumph chopper.  It was pitiful.

Everywhere I look it's V-twins.  Even my best friend wants to buy a V-twin (he's never ridden a bike before), and can't understand my infatuation with bikes that look "old".   >:(
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2007, 06:57:08 AM »
Nope I was thinking victory, sorry.

victory is owned by polaris so I dont know what triumphs problem is. guess they want to disappear again.