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cb400f 1976 piston pin clip dimensions
« on: June 19, 2019, 11:59:22 AM »
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    In the 400 parts list No. 328 piston pin clip shows 13mm, is that the clip size? after taking out the old clips i reconsidered the possibility of installing new ones. although i'm kind of interested in shopping around as the current factory honda clips are selling for approx 5 dollars each. i need 4 (for now,) the first site i came to minimum sale of 30 13mm the dimensions are free dia is 13.2mm 6mm gap, thickness is 1mm, groove dai is 13mm spring steel. only problem is i have to buy 30 minimum which runs $2.02 there could be tax and maybe shipping. it's more like what a retaining ring should sell for, 1mm is pretty small i'll go see if i can measure what came out of it. does anyone have an abundance of piston pin clips they could throw in a envelope, i'll mail u some cash first for a couple beers? thanks. oh and i'm looking for those 4 orings that go under the base gasket. (i was told somebody left em out and it worked alright, keep in mind almost guaranteed i'll have to take it apart again anyways. i'd drag my feet on pricing those orings as they're probably 10 bucks each.

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Re: cb400f 1976 piston pin clip dimensions
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 04:49:09 PM »
So you want to save a small amout, get something that may fall out and wreck the cylinders.
Not worth it buy the proper part!
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Re: cb400f 1976 piston pin clip dimensions
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2019, 08:46:15 PM »
When I replaced my pistons and removed the piston clips they can become deformed when you pop them out. I didn't want to take any chances with deformed clips. It's recommended to install new clips. When I rebuilt my CB350f, I did find a piston pin clip in the oil pan from someone in the past that must of dropped one into the casing. Make sure they snap in and make sure to rotate them so the ends are away from the channel. 

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Re: cb400f 1976 piston pin clip dimensions
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2019, 04:44:24 AM »
So you want to save a small amout, get something that may fall out and wreck the cylinders.
Not worth it buy the proper part!

i appreciate your advice, i do. thanks.

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Re: cb400f 1976 piston pin clip dimensions
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2019, 01:13:24 PM »
When I replaced my pistons and removed the piston clips they can become deformed when you pop them out. I didn't want to take any chances with deformed clips. It's recommended to install new clips. When I rebuilt my CB350f, I did find a piston pin clip in the oil pan from someone in the past that must of dropped one into the casing. Make sure they snap in and make sure to rotate them so the ends are away from the channel.

awesome, the first clip i took out, was slightly deformed the next 3 i couldn't see  any difference. i realize a deformed clip may jump it's groove. i think i'm gonna wing it, on account of they're easy to see if they're seated without guessing.  i'll even put a tad bit more spring tension on them by springing them out. it's not about money at all. i have 24 used ones to choose from although i try to keep every nut bolt and washer in their original home hole. you said "make sure they snap in," you do put them in with needle nose right? or do you just push them in, with a socket or something?  there's gotta be a industry standard in testing certain fasteners. the request was partly aiming at the mercantile exchange rate mentality of selling old new parts at 4 or 5 dollars a clip. that then even becomes a factor in the base rates for aftermarket parts sold by the more popular aftermarket online retailer. not just for some of that have always re-used the parts either but for new riders as well, that make decisions if they fish through these millions of comments of sometimes extremely valuable info. like the clip in pan, it's comforting to know that, if it was in operation much the clip was dense enough to stay there. moving those clips in and out of the pistons, it doesn't take much leverage. if i trash a motor, i'll report it back here on this site, i'm not shy about disastrous mistakes. 6 months ago i decided to take this motor apart to fix an oil leak and to learn about the timing chain tensioner, if it's working or not. it is. there's some pretty good scratches on to pistons. looking closely with a hand microscope, there's carbon where the scratch ends. with a worn out piece of crocus i got those, and even on the top 2 rings smoothed those scratches out, i could feel them with dragging a thumb nail over them (it's possible it won't even run, if it does, it's gonna be in a better spot than it was, it could of been just before i took it apart, i put on a spare rack of carbs that produced a monster power load in midrange, but sputtered and missed on low an high. it through me for loop as to why all that power simply developed. it ran like a 250 can am, bombadier. it probably shook some carbon loose i rode it a few mile that way. it was a free motor, low mileage like 3000 or less miles, i ran the crap out of it so far, didn't burn oil, it'd leak less than 1/2 qt in a 1000miles.  i'll put it together the way it is, to get an idea on how to do it with new pistons. i got 2 more motors in the same state of wear. i have 1 466 kit and 4 first over pistons for those. i'd buy another 400f today if i could find one. i'm riding a 33cc stand up chinese scooter as primary transportation right now. no holeshots off the line.