Author Topic: Chrome 836 Tracy Project! (Sold 04/15/2023). It was fun! (Read 162976 times)

Hush · « **Reply #650 on:** May 23, 2009, 08:06:53 pm »

That's a really really bad thing to happen mate, best of luck healing her.

cleveland · « **Reply #651 on:** May 24, 2009, 08:13:53 am »

Bummer.

mystic_1 · « **Reply #652 on:** May 24, 2009, 08:32:36 am »

Bloody hell!

Quote from: kghost on May 23, 2009, 05:04:06 pm

Wow that sucks....

What exactly happened?

What killed the rods?

What can we do to help?

+1 to all of the above.

mystic_1

Spikeybike · « **Reply #653 on:** May 24, 2009, 11:52:57 am »

NO NO NO NO NOOOOOO!!!

what a bummer man....

Quote from: kghost on May 23, 2009, 05:04:06 pm

What can we do to help?

+1

seaweb11 · « **Reply #654 on:** May 24, 2009, 01:12:41 pm »

Most of the engine parts were "the best" out of 2 1/2 engines I started with. All he said was a wrist pin gave out. He indicated it was not something he had seen before, but sh*t happens

He scrounging around to find me what I need and will do the re- & -re at his place since it's spread all over his shop at this point anyway. He is cutting me some slack on his rate to do it again. Once he has the engine back together I'll drop over and give it a quick paint as all the petcock fuel spills before it cured made a bit of a mess of it.

Don't need anything but money

Magpie · « **Reply #655 on:** May 24, 2009, 01:45:52 pm »

As a friend of mine said "there's not enough u's in F**K".
Bad luck!
Cliff.

754 · « **Reply #656 on:** May 31, 2009, 10:29:35 am »

How bad is it?

What does it all need? Tell us the bad news..

Maybe we can help out..

seaweb11 · « **Reply #657 on:** June 11, 2009, 07:37:20 pm »

Good evening gentlemen.
Picked up the bike today with my 2nd attempt at this 836 motor.

I will get into the particulars of what has been done at a later date. Right now I have a bike that runs absolutely awesome without the body kit on "gas still in carbs". As soon as I put the Tracy body kit on I loose spark from both outside plugs?

?

I really wanted to ride this tonight after what this has cost me..............any ideas. This kit is a tight fit. I don't even have room for proper clamps on the petcock, I have to use zip ties. So removing the kit after assembly is a real start from scratch pain in the ASS!

I'm headed back out to the garage but I will be back for any thoughts on this.

754 · « **Reply #658 on:** June 11, 2009, 08:00:27 pm »

Body must be pushing off a wire to the coil, sounds like.

seaweb11 · « **Reply #659 on:** June 11, 2009, 08:39:06 pm »

Found it!!!!!!!!!!!

Seems he re-routed the ignition switch wires and the coil wires and they were getting squished..........

Found it by running of the bottle and manipulating wires all around.

If I'm not back in an hour call an ambulance

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #660 on:** June 11, 2009, 09:57:42 pm »

Going on an hour and a half. If you don't report back soon I'm calling Kathleen to check on you.

seaweb11 · « **Reply #661 on:** June 11, 2009, 10:35:47 pm »

It's all good, I'm home.
WOW! Wow! While the guy who built the motor had my bike he removed all the baffles from new Yoshi exhaust, said it needed to breath............reset the carb needles and synced it.

He didn't like the way my carbs were just hanging there, so fitted the bike with a support rod from above to hold it all in place rock solid. I'll take some photos of the set up next time I remove the body kit. This tightening up of carbs to engine made the room for gas lines off petcock very tight. Carbs are now catching on fuel lines a bit. Makes every shift a "Power shift"

I'll need to deal with that as it's a bit scary heading into a tight corner with a bit of power still on...........

Kathleen says she will see if her feet touch the ground on my 78K.
If so we could be up to some major miles together at a good speed

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #662 on:** June 11, 2009, 10:44:23 pm »

Break it in good.....

Think we might do the Yellowstone area the week before Sturgis. Get her some high heel riding boots. Meet you 2 there.

seaweb11 · « **Reply #663 on:** June 11, 2009, 10:51:10 pm »

What dates are you looking at again?

I promise I will at least put it on my calender this time

I still can't see riding the Tracy that far, Seems that to much concentration is necessary to ride it. It's not a cruiser................

.................It's a bit like what crack must feel like

seaweb11 · « **Reply #664 on:** June 27, 2009, 04:33:51 pm »

I was out on the track again yesterday, and watching the video from instructor behind me I still see major blue smoke from the pipe on major compression deceleration into a hairpin corner and again on getting into the throttle.

Engine builder had no problems with me on the track. 200 miles on new rebuild.

Should I be concerned? Or is this still part of the valves seating "what ever that means"?

P.S. Runs great, but still not charging correctly. Battery went down and headlight wasn't even hooked up?

andy750 · « **Reply #665 on:** June 27, 2009, 06:15:42 pm »

If it was me I wouldnt be racing my recently rebuilt engine just yet. While its fine to blip the throttle now and again after rebuild hitting the high RPMS, your descriptions are of wide-open, screaming, high rpm loads followed by sudden near stops....a lot of stress on a fresh rebuild.......however having said that Mec is the one you should be asking with his fresh Egli...he was racing it pretty soon afterwards so Id check with him....or ask Mindler....I am sure he has some experience of this.....Ive had 3 or 4 rebuild and while I didnt baby them, I didnt go crazy either.....never any blue smoke (only head leaks

)

good luck
Andy

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #666 on:** June 27, 2009, 06:27:11 pm »

The old guys used to tell me to break 'em in like you're going to ride 'em. IMO main thing is to give it the initial miles to make sure the mechanics are OK then work your way into it. Gotta get the rings seated somehow so the oil doesn't sneak past. Do you know what kind of clearance he bored to? I'd assume he fitted valve seals on the exhausts considering the early engines did not have them?! Don't forget to do a post break-in oil change.

How about the Gabriola 500? 500 laps around the island which will require varying speeds.

seaweb11 · « **Reply #667 on:** June 27, 2009, 07:18:53 pm »

I did ride it for a few days before track time although he said it's track ready (now) when I picked it up.

The video looked hideous , Looked like an Indian.........smoke signals at every corner

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #668 on:** July 09, 2009, 07:06:45 pm »

That's not good Derek, after your first ride (when it's burning off any excess oil used during the assembly) a properly built engine with correct piston-to-cylinder clearances shouldn't be burning any oil, period.

Pull your plugs and examine them, if they look "oily black" as opposed to "rich mixture black", do a compression check, with a fresh 836cc engine you'd expect upwards of 180 psi per cylinder, with a 5% max variation.

If it's less than that, pour a little oil in each cylinder via the spark plug hole and check again. If the compression figures come up, it's your piston-to-cylinder clearance that's at issue, or if it's just one or two cylinders you might have some busted rings due to poor assembly technique. If there's no difference at all, it's a valve/valve guide sealing problem.

My advice, for what it's worth, is to take it to somebody other than your man who built it initially, I suspect that he's no expert..............

seaweb11 · « **Reply #669 on:** July 10, 2009, 08:05:46 pm »

Thanks Terry: Need to do an oil change tomorrow, will look at it then.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #670 on:** July 11, 2009, 03:03:12 am »

Make sure you run your engine to normal running temps before you take any readings Derek, or you'll get false results. Also, as you're dropping out your oil, smell it, if it smells like your exhaust, you're getting "blow-by" getting past your rings into your crankcases. Did you say once before that you were getting smoke coming out of your crankcase breather? That's another symptom of ring seal failure. Cheers, Terry.

seaweb11 · « **Reply #671 on:** December 24, 2009, 10:57:31 am »

Just thought I would add my little video at the end of this thread. Seems a fitting way for it to end

Nice little jump at 1.03

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Hush · « **Reply #672 on:** December 24, 2009, 12:07:37 pm »

I keep telling you, it's unsafe to ride on the wrong side of the road!!!!

Actually those roads could be any backroads in New Zealand, I'm always amazed at the relative similarity between our two countries, oh yeah nice jump SW.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #673 on:** December 24, 2009, 03:27:28 pm »

Quote from: Hush on December 24, 2009, 12:07:37 pm

Actually those roads could be any backroads in New Zealand,

Ha ha, talk it up Hushy, that could be any New Zealand Freeway!

Nice clips Derek, beautiful scenery, you're a lucky boy! But whats that godawful rattle when you back it off? You got a stuffed bearing in your gearbox? Cheers, Terry.

seaweb11 · « **Reply #674 on:** December 24, 2009, 03:57:12 pm »

That's just the rattling sounds of the mailbox the camera was sitting on as I went by at just below the speed of sound

it is a nice track to ride

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Author Topic: Chrome 836 Tracy Project! (Sold 04/15/2023). It was fun! (Read 162976 times)