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Offline heffay

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Everyone... stop riding right now!
« on: January 30, 2007, 06:35:04 PM »
It is winter time here in the states... gravel on the road!

you guys aren't gonna have any bikes to ride when the REAL time comes.
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2007, 06:43:28 PM »
I don't go for any rides over 20 miles if its below 40 degrees as long as roads are safe. Ixnay when roads wet, salty or icy.

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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 06:47:11 PM »
Been riding to work all winter, except when its icy.  What is annoying this year is that the highway department has been slathering the roads with liquid de-icer every morning, even when there isn't a cloud for 500 miles.  Turns a perfectly good dry road slippery for no reason.
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 06:47:31 PM »
I haven't ridden since before i got out for christmas break  :'(
but, my bikes are still in one piece... i can handle the cabin fever for that bonus!
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 06:54:37 PM »
Been riding to work all winter, except when its icy.  What is annoying this year is that the highway department has been slathering the roads with liquid de-icer every morning, even when there isn't a cloud for 500 miles.  Turns a perfectly good dry road slippery for no reason.

We have a case down here involving an MVA fatality.  The claims are that the road de-icer actually contributed to the accident.  May be plausible...
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 06:58:19 PM »
I dunno Heff, your motivations on this thread are suspect.   ;)

The roads melted out enough here that I rode in-town a few miles on errands.  My Honda is partly dismantled for winter maintenance and repairs; but I rode my Yamaha.  There was sand, gravel, potholes, and puddles everywhere!  Still, when I got home from patient visits today, I rode it again to an appt.  Desire overcame good sense.  ;D

S'pposed to snow a little over the next few days, and temps have dropped back down below freezing.  Probably won't get to ride again for a while.  But the Yamaha is being kept ridable, just in case!  ;D
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007, 07:02:24 PM »
it is entirely plausible!  anything added to the asphalt is not intended to help us... just the cages.

that is why i referred to the gravel and not ice... we all know ice is slick but, so is everything else on the road right now. 

I dunno Heff, your motivations on this thread are suspect.   ;)

why's that?  i just don't want you guys thinking it is safe to ride because all the snow is gone... cuz it's not.
btw, my bikes are still snowed into the garage so that is partially the reason.   ;)  i still have 3 feet in front of the garage door!
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2007, 07:13:20 PM »
It is winter time here in the states... gravel on the road!

you guys aren't gonna have any bikes to ride when the REAL time comes.


  I'm looking at temps in the high 20'sF tomorrow and just a 60% chance of a dusting of snow and you expect me to stay off my bike?! Just because you've had like 6 feet of snow in a couple of storms? heffay my brother you have to learn how to suppress that jealous streak you're sporting.  ;D  Seriously though it's been over 2 weeks since I've ridden and I'm getting a bit itchy...

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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2007, 07:18:50 PM »
Hey Mick, I thought the rule in Gloucester was that as long as the boats go out, you can ride?
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2007, 07:40:09 PM »
Hey Mick, I thought the rule in Gloucester was that as long as the boat go out, you can ride?

   Funny you should mention that medic because I always thought if the boats go out...the bikes go out and I've done a bunch of cold weather riding. Mind you when it's real cold the rides have been nothing more than a half hour but it keeps me from winterizing the bike.

    Unfortunately because of the regulations that the gubmint keeps putting on the fishing industry the boats go out less and less. It's gotten to the point where there is no point in going out in bad weather because the number of days you can fish makes it reasonable to go out only when the weather is good. Most likely there won't be any more perfect storm stories...a good thing...and quite possibly the small town fishing industry will die because more and more it's become a large boat offshore fishing/processing industry. Of course there's the argument that the industry wouldn't be in this situation if they hadn't overfished to begin with but that's another story all together that has nothing to do with riding. ;)

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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2007, 09:19:02 PM »
 Everyone... stop riding right now!

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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2007, 10:31:41 PM »
Where I am it's too hot to ride. I see a lot of bikers in shorts, tee-shirts and thongs but I am kind of attached to my skin and would like it to stay put.
Once we get the CB350 going it could be a bit better but the CX's just don't do it in the summer.
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2007, 10:36:03 PM »

We have a case down here involving an MVA fatality.  The claims are that the road de-icer actually contributed to the accident.  May be plausible...

It wouldn't surprise me.  They not only put it down when it isn't necessary, they also put down way too much.  Sometimes it is in puddles at intersections.
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2007, 10:45:10 PM »
Bah, I ride to class every day, but that's only cause it's a 5 minute ride, parking is extremely convenient, there hasn't been a lick of snow, and the average temperature has been in the mid-40s.

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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2007, 11:38:23 PM »
Sacramento's only seen .07" of rain this month and the temps are in the 60's. Better than spring! Too bad my bike is in pieces again for the "winter"... :(
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2007, 07:14:36 AM »
I don't ride after it falls below 45 or so outside.
Mainly because I don't like the cold, but also because the risk of damage to me and my
scoot are much greater because of the crappy conditions...

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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2007, 07:25:24 AM »
Alright Heffay, you've done jinxed me!

The bike wouldn't start this morning.  What did you tell her when I was sleeping?!

(Course it was 15 degrees when I tried to start her, and the throttle cables were frozen solid, so maybe she was just pissed at me for leaving her outside overnight  ;D)
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2007, 07:47:27 AM »
Okay, Heffay, it's snowing and foggy.  I'm not riding today.

Happy?  :D
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2007, 08:34:11 AM »
definitely not happy... i'll be happy when this season is over turtle and her bunch  ;D
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2007, 08:44:06 AM »
I just did 200 miles on the 550 last weekend, it's fine as long as you take it easy. It snowed the first halfhour on the way back.

What's liquid de-icer anyway? here they just put a mixture of salt and sand on the roads. My eyes were so bloodshot from the salt when I arrived , that my friends thought I on drugs. Keep your visor closed , even when it's dirty.  ;D
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2007, 09:06:48 AM »
What's liquid de-icer anyway? here they just put a mixture of salt and sand on the roads. My eyes were so bloodshot from the salt when I arrived , that my friends thought I on drugs. Keep your visor closed , even when it's dirty.  ;D
Brine - a salt/water solution. They've been using it for 2-3 years around here now. It's easier to apply and stays in place while the roads are dry. Leaves stripes on the road. When it gets wet it acts just like regular salt, but no crunch. They still put down regular salt (like a couple of inches of it  ::) ) at intersections but it just sweeps to the sides because we haven't had any snow or ice on the roads since Christmas '04.  :(
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2007, 09:26:35 AM »
they use mag cloride here in place of salt. 
salt rusts cars, obviously
when i was younger we used to travel from kansas (where they use salt) to colorado (mainly gravel and mag cloride) to buy cars that were not rusty.  we'd take them back to kansas and sell them.  kansans seem to flock to the non rusty cars  ;D
although, it was recently proven that mag cloride can oxidize as well but, not nearly as much usually. 
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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2007, 10:35:13 AM »
Salt definitely rusts cars. That's a good thing for those of us in the car wash business. Our busiest season is the winter. A warm, sunny Saturday after salting the roads can more than make up for a slow month.  ;D
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2007, 04:03:29 PM »
Here in th SF/SJ bay area, we can ride all year long, though there are far more fair weather riders than winter riders.  Trips to Tahoe, etc on a bike aren't recommended because of the snow at those high elevations and the requirement for chains on the drive wheels.  (Anyone ever put chains on a 2 wheeled MC?)

Anyway, there are still plenty of roads to wail on as we have lots of low land, too.  Watch out for the fog, though.  California doesn't put much of any substance on the roads.  They even have an aversion to putting asphalt in the pot holes.  But, we do get rain.  The nice thing is that it cleans off much of the crud that builds up during the long months of no rain, such as oil, grease, etc. And, afterwards the traction actually improves!

But, it is never a good idea to count on having traction on any public highway.  You can never predict when a sprinkler head is going to spray the road where you need the most traction (under that shade tree on the corner).  And, work trucks trail dirt, sand, gravel, hay, grass, manure, etc. all of which finds its way between tire tread rubber and pavement surface, acting as an anti friction ingredient.  Of course, after you are down and sliding on your personal bits, the pavement will be clean of spilt materials and provide the best friction available.  ::)

These aren't the only things to look out for however.  It's other drivers.  Unless they are constantly reminded that motorcycles share the road with repetitive sightings, they cease to look for them at all.  In bad weather and when the weather begins to turn good enough to bring out more MCs, the cage drivers take much longer to incorporate any kind of visual scan for MCs.
It is human nature as people tend to find and see only what they are looking for. When they change lanes, for example, they may actually look into your lane to check if a car or truck is there.  Seeing none, they enter the lane you are occupying with your MC.  The same is true for turning onto streets and across traffic lanes (in front of you).  Even eye contact is not reliable as they simply aren't looking for an eye in a helmet.

So, if your goal is to be perfectly safe...stop riding now...and forever.
Or, develop a good methodology for managing risks.

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Re: Everyone... stop riding right now!
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2007, 04:38:45 PM »
SF/SJ, eh?  I've got a daughter in Santa Cruz.  If I ever ride out to see her, I'll have to come look at those bikes of yours...
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