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Offline Tom C

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« on: August 17, 2019, 08:06:24 AM »
Hi all!
I've lurked this site since January 2019 when I started my first SOHC/4 restoration of a 72 CB350f.  That project is finished and sold and I'm embarking on my second resto, this 1974 CB550 K0:


12,660 miles on the odometer, she starts right up but runs quite poorly, but I think that I can get her back to good running condition easily. 

The tank looks good on the inside and while the paint job on the outside of the tank and side covers is nice, it's not the right color for this model and whomever did the job filled the tank badge mounting points with bondo.  I have a guy that will strip and paint these parts for me - he did an awesome job on my CB350f, which I repainted in Flake Matador Red.  I think I'd like this one redone in Flake Sunrise Orange. 

I like the fact that she has what I believe to be OEM exhaust in fair condition.

...although something must be done about the muffler tips, which are missing and/or drilled out:


I am not a fan of the saddlebags, I've removed them already and will probably put them up for sale if anybody is interested:


A PO went overboard on the blue paint, covering both fenders, rims and some engine parts:


...with a very thick multiple layer coating of primers, paint and clear coat


I was hoping to find some nice chrome fenders underneath all the layers, but it turns out that they were in pretty bad shape before they were painted, I can't get them polished up to my satisfaction:

So it looks like I'll be looking for some decent used ones on on ebay or elsewhere. 

I anticipate this to be a winter project for the most part but I'll get here in good running conditions before any major teardown just to be sure that all is well mechanically. 

I've already learned alot about these SOHC/4 bikes from the good folks here who have taken the time to document their own trials and tribulations with these great machines, I'm sure that there is more for me to learn as this CB550 project takes shape.  Thanks in advance for your advice and experience!  I'll try to keep this thread updated with my progress as I go.
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Re: 1975 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2019, 08:14:31 AM »
Watching with interest to see what you do with those end caps.  I also have a 550 that has had a pipe drilled.  Otherwise, sounds like you have solid plans for the bike.
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Re: 1975 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2019, 02:32:28 PM »
Is the 75 a K0 when the bike came out in '74 as the CB550K?
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2019, 07:18:50 PM »
Is the 75 a K0 when the bike came out in '74 as the CB550K?
You are correct- it is a 74, not 75.  My mistake- I've changed the thread title to avoid further confusion. The post content has already been fixed.  Thanks!


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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2019, 03:44:37 PM »
Check out SohRon's assembly manual in the maintenance section. Really helped me out as I was doing my own ' 74 k0. Lots of good information there.
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2019, 04:33:47 AM »
Thanks!  That looks like a great resource. 
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2019, 09:54:18 AM »
Well I've not posted an update on my project since August, so it's about time I did so!

The PO really did a number on the chrome parts that he painted that hideous blue color - they were all too scratched up to restore - even the rims -  so I ended up finding replacements on ebay.

Thankfully the painted aluminum parts were easily stripped and polished:


(try to ignore the complete chaos that is my garage in the background....

Fork tube polishes up nicely:


When I finally got around to a closer inspection of the exhaust I found pretty extensive rust at the muffler/header joints of pipes 1 and 4:

I believe the fancy term for this is lamellar corrosion or pancake rusting.  Not good.

I'm going to do a little experiment using JB Weld Extreme Heat metallic repair paste.
Here it is slathered over everything:

Word of advice - don't try to rush the curing using a hot air gun.

I prepped the repair site by removing any loose bits of flaking rust as best I could and then applying a few coats of Loktite Extend Rust Neutralizer.  Also the hole was so big I stuck a piece of hose clamp in so that that I'd have some support from the inside when I slathered on the repair paste:


Then gooped it up real good with JB Weld:


After it all cured I was able to sand down the hardened paste to create a somewhat smooth surface:


...it's not perfect but it is sealing up the huge gaping hole.

As I said, it's an experiment - we'll see how this JB Weld Extreme Heat stuff holds up to the rigors of use including multiple heating/cooling cycles.  Chances are I'll have to do something more expensive to get those holes filled in permanently. 





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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2019, 10:07:08 AM »
In addition to the muffler repair experiment, some work was done on the wheels, which you may recall were not spared from the blue madness perpetuated on this innocent machine by the PO:


Once the paint was stripped away from the rims it was pretty clear I would not be able to save them.... better (not perfect) replacements were found on ebay and both front and rear wheels were re-laced with new spokes after cleaning up the hubs:


...much better than before!

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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2019, 10:23:10 AM »
Unfortunately I know from experience that that JB weld won’t hold up for very long. The pressure will bust through it and eventually it will break off.
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2019, 10:26:32 AM »
My good friend Steve who owns a body shop most graciously agreed to paint the CB550's parts in exchange for me getting his 75 Honda ST90 in working condition - it was a good trade for us both as he is too busy to work on his CT90 and I couldn't afford to pay someone to paint my CB550!  I wanted the bike as similar to the original Flake Sunrise Orange without having to pay for the excellent but expensive VMR paint.  Steve's paint system at the shop can formulate just about any OEM automobile color - we chose atomic orange, a color used on Corvettes and other GM cars around 2007-2009:


Here's how they came out:





Steve had an old Arthur Fulmer top box from a previous project, he painted it as well so I'll be getting a luggage rack for the old girl upon which to mount it. 


Here's how she looks with her fresh coat of paint!





Still lots more work needs to be done, but she's a far sight better looking now then when I picked her up in August:

Steve now has those side cases, which he will paint to match the top box with some gloss black accent to go with the tank - because I think I want to tour a bit on this bike after she's completed!
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2019, 12:43:31 PM »
Wow Tom, what a nice transformation!  Thanks for sharing.

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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2019, 06:41:11 AM »
The tank trim arrived yesterday, it adds even more to the beauty of the paint:

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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2019, 07:19:36 PM »
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2019, 05:10:40 AM »
So over this winter I'm planning to do a frame up rebuild of the bike, refreshing wheel, fork and swing arm bearings. 
I'd also like to have some suspension work done, at the very least new springs that are appropriate for a heavier rider. 

When it comes to the motor, I'm thinking a top end rebuild at the very least.  The bike has 12,600 miles on the odometer.
Anyway, I'm looking for recommendations on engine work what to do, where to go.   

I haven't found any places locally (Delaware) that specialize in old motorcycle engine work.  I haven't really looked into it to be honest.  I need to get out more. :)

Ultimately I'd like to get the bike in good enough condition mechanically so that I can take a cross country trip on her in 2020 with as little trouble as possible.   

Thanks in advance for your input!
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2019, 02:44:53 PM »
Hondaman did my head and cylinders on my K3 750. Beautiful work, great to work with. He has a wealth of knowledge on our sohc’s. Don’t let an amateur touch yours, they’ll ruin them. Hondaman is on this site a lot, read his “thoughts of Hondaman” posts, mostly about 750’s but he’s all over sohc’s.
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2019, 07:12:03 AM »
Hondaman did my head and cylinders on my K3 750. Beautiful work, great to work with. He has a wealth of knowledge on our sohc’s. Don’t let an amateur touch yours, they’ll ruin them. Hondaman is on this site a lot, read his “thoughts of Hondaman” posts, mostly about 750’s but he’s all over sohc’s.
Thanks!  Great advice.  I'll be in touch with Mark.
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2019, 07:49:11 AM »
Hondaman did my head and cylinders on my K3 750. Beautiful work, great to work with. He has a wealth of knowledge on our sohc’s. Don’t let an amateur touch yours, they’ll ruin them. Hondaman is on this site a lot, read his “thoughts of Hondaman” posts, mostly about 750’s but he’s all over sohc’s.

What service are you talking about? Port & polish?
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2019, 08:15:38 AM »
The current plan is to send to Hondaman the head, intake manifolds and cylinders for him to work his magic on.  In my emails with Mark (Hondaman), he explained that intake restrictions are the most significant performance restriction in 500/550 motors.  The best way to improve the breathing to port the head and intake manifolds, slow down the spark curve rate and change out the OEM cam for one with longer duration, he recommended the Megacycle 126-00 or 126-01 because it is longer in duration with lift similar to stock which increases flow and performance without putting more stress on the valve train.  The Megacycle cams are not cheap ($450) but in Mark's opinion they are worth it. 

I got extremely lucky last week - Just before getting in touch with MegaCycle to place my order, the CB550, used, Honda daily search of ebay showed up an unused, Megacycle 126-01 cam selling for $125 including shipping!  I snapped it up immediately.  It has arrived in perfect condition with the original box including installation instructions, timing card and a small container of Red Line Assembly Lube!



Now that is a pretty good deal! Before I install this cam I'll have the top end work done by Hondaman, from whom I've already gotten lots of great advice. 

I also found a NOS Connecticut Luggage rack for the 550 upon which I can mount the Arthur Fulmer top box:

While it mostly fits, it seems to be for an older model CB550 because the mounting holes to attach it to the grab bar are not in the proper location for my 74:

I think that I can remedy this however, using a corner bracket of some sort. 
Here's the top box sitting on the rack - not yet hard mounted.



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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2019, 11:26:13 AM »
Hey Tom,

looks really good so far. The first 550 are quite rare and damn hard to find. I love the fact, that you picked an original paint of the old ones. Even better would be Jade green  ;)

And man, those original 4:4 pipes are just a damn beauty

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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2019, 11:36:49 AM »
Tom I like what you are doing there. She is really looking nice. You can't go wrong with the orange. Your friend did a great job with the paint. You will get a lot of comments when you are out and about on that 550. Congrats on a fine job there!
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2020, 03:05:08 PM »
Well it's been quite some time since my last update on the 550. I decided to finish up the restoration of my 69 Honda CB90:

That little project was completed just in time to put her on the market just as coronavirus hit. Bad timing but I guess I can hold onto her for little while before she gets sold eventually.

Well once the CT90 was finished attention was turned to the CB550 - here she is, now tagged and street legal:


I can't disagree with those of you who commented on how the huge luggage rack and top box are not complimentary to the lines of this bike. For now they are off the bike. I would like to take some trips on this one, and when I do so I can put them back on along with the period side boxes that my friend Steve is painting - along with repainting the left side cover, which fell off the other day on a test ride around the block (totally my fault).

Now that she's tagged I was able to take her out for a high speed ride which was a learning experience. The butcher job done by previous owners on the original exhaust pipes made them LOUD, way too loud for my liking, so I had to do something about that.

Here's the before picture:

I'm not sure why the ends of the top pipes were totally cut off but the bottoms only had the four holes drilled through the ends...

I fashioned 2 1/2" discs out of 16ga steel and cut a 1" hole in the middle:


These fit well enough into the muffler ends:


To fix them in place temporarily before I have them tack welded into place more permanently I drilled some holes in the "inner" exhaust pipe and used a cotter pin to hold them in place thusly:

I also used some high temp sealant around the edges to seal things up. It's a temporary fix, good enough for me to confirm that this solution will reduce the noise sufficiently. Once we are out of quarantine I'll ask Wayne to weld them up.

So far my high temp JB Weld patch of the holes between header and muffler has held up, but it is still early times on that fix:

Others in the SOHC/4 forum have tried and failed with this technique.
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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2020, 03:09:23 PM »
My initial plan was to send the cylinders and head to Hondaman over this past winter for  top end work but there were too many other projects in the garage for me to get around to it, so I decided to ride the bike with the motor as is for this season, then get the top end work done next winter. Let's get her into riding condition and put some miles on her before that project begins.

Still there is lots to do to the 550. Parts began to arrive:


The parts to the right are for a buddy's 1986 Honda Fourtrax 250, most of the other bits are for the 550. New cables, stainless steel brake lines, new caliper piston and seal, master cylinder rebuild, clutch, fuel line, valve tappet covers (some of the old ones were cracked), rear shocks/springs as well as fork springs.

I noticed some clutch slippage at high throttle as well as some slow clutch engagement at times when upshifting, so new clutch and springs were ordered. I got the heavy duty spring set with 10% higher spring rate than OEM. That was a mistake, it's very hard to pull in the clutch now, so I have new OEM replacement springs on the way. Interestingly, there are 6 springs included in the EBC clutch spring set although the bike only requires 4 springs. I thought perhaps that I ordered the wrong set but after checking it is correct, in other bikes all 6 springs are used.

(note to self - next time be sure to put on the oil drain plug before filling the crankcase with oil)

I tackled the front brake work next, which went smoothly for the most part. It did take a very long time for all the little air bubbles to work themselves out of the system. After lots and lots of bleeding it is necessary to pump the brake handle over and over to force the last bits of air out of the system. I read lots of posts on SOHC/4 about the right way to do this and I think I tried them all. But in the end it just took an hour or so (at least it seemed that long) to coax the tiny air bubbles out of the system. On other bikes I've done this a big air bubble would be forced out after a few pumps. On this bike it was a seemingly endless stream of very tiny little bubbles. But in the end the brake lever firmed up and I've got front brakes. Not the greatest of brakes but I've read that Honda engineers of the day purposefully built that brake system to underperform because disc brakes were new to production motorcycles at the time and there was concern that too many folks unused to front disc brakes would grab too much brake up front and lose control. Maybe that's true, in any case I'm seriously considering adding a second disc up front. The right fork leg has the necessary mounting hardware and the rest of the brake hardware up front is designed so that it can be used on either side of the wheel. But that project is for the future.

Suspension - I knew at the very least she needed springs - the bike hardly leaned over on the sidestand and it was a herculean effort to pull her up onto the center stand. I didn't want to spend an arm and a leg though, so after some internet searching I settled on Progressive Suspension brand components:

Progressive Suspension 11-1106 fork springs ($60 - found a good ebay deal)
Progressive Suspension 12-1204B 12 Series 13in. Shocks ($167)
Progressive Suspension 03-1394C 12 Series Springs (70-120 psi) - Chrome ($82)

The fork springs were noticeably longer than the old springs, so much so that it was difficult to re-install the fork cap bolt.

The owners manual calls for 10-30, but I used Maxima 10W fork oil. Apparently there were no fork specific oils available back when these bikes were being build. The spec in the owners manual only gives an oil fill volume, no spec on oil height in the fork tube. Per the instructions that came with the fork springs, I filled the fork tubes to a height of 140mm with springs out and forks fully compressed after cycling the forks up and down a few times to remove trapped air. I had already replaced the fork seals with All Balls Racing Motorcycle Fork & Dust Seal Kit 56-137.

The spring rates on both front and back are slightly higher than OEM, hopefully appropriate for a fat old guy. The rear shocks fully extended length is 1/2" longer than stock. I was worried that might shift the fork geometry towards instability but so far that is not a problem. I haven't put enough miles on her to give a proper evaluation of the suspension mods, but I can tell you that now there is a good lean on the side stand and she rolls right up on the centerstand.


Next on the to do list are new Avon AM 26 Roadmasters to replace the ancient Dunlops!
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2020, 12:54:38 PM »
Shame on me for not updating this topic more regularly. 

Where to start... Let's start with the motor.  I installed the Megacycle cam.  It was a fairly simple job. Also cleaned up the intake tubes per Hondaman's advice:

The bike was still running poorly though with cylinder #3 clearly fouling:


I thought that the problem might be with the spark after I checked the resistance of the plug caps:



so I replaced the caps.  And the coils.  And I installed Hondaman's transistorized ignition.  Still fouling plug #3.  Damn. 

I've got Hondaman's book and started looking for possible problems.  In the book he talks about how a blockage in the air channel that goes from the airbox side of the carb to the emulsion tube can cause poor mixing and an apparent rich mixture.  So I removed the carbs yet again and blew some carb cleaner into this passage on the #3 carb:

...squirted right back into my eye... ouch! I cleaned it out with a welding torch cleaner thing along with the other carbs just in case but the #3 was the only one blocked.  Problem solved!   She was like a completely different bike now that she ran on all four cylinders! 

Still some issues with the carbs though.  Running too rich at partial throttle.  Hondaman's advice on the 550 suggests that with the megacycle cam it is necessary to run leaner pilot jets, so I switched out the stock #38 jets for #34 and raised the needles up  one position.  Bingo! Now she runs great.  I put a few hundred miles on the bike riding locally with no issues, then got her ready for some touring! 

The luggage rack I bought was just not right for this bike:

It was sticking way out behind the bike way past the lights.  Unacceptable. 
I cut part of the mounting rod that connects to the shock post and fashioned a temporary mount from a conduit clamp:

This moved the rack farther forward to a much more reasonable position:

It also made it possible to use the existing mounting boss on the rack, attaching to where the turn signals had been mounted:

I want to be able to mount side bags so I relocated the turn signals to the luggage rack:

Which allowed me to mount soft bag on her:

Here she is packed and ready to go for a camping trip to Virginia last weekend. 

One more necessary addition was a windshield provided courtesy of my buddy Kevin, shown here trying it out for size:

In addition to the stock mounts I added a couple of reinforcements just for good measure:


Here she is in all her glory, photos courtesy of my nephew Tommy:




She looks good, runs great and with the windshield and luggage is quite a capable touring bike! 

Next on the punch list is to convert the front brake to dual discs!!



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Re: 1974 CB550 K0 Restoration Project
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2020, 03:09:24 PM »
Glad that Tach got you back on the road.

hope that pipe holds up. Those single pipes are Expensive!

Getting ready to search for a couple of those 4 into 4  pipes but most of what I have found on Ebay are holey rusted.

I keep having an annoying thought in the back of my brain to buy the rusty pipes and try to cast in aluminum the muffler part.

again Great looking bike.

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2020, 03:06:23 AM »
Ah yes I forgot to tell you all that as predicted by experienced SOHC/4 forum members, my neat looking muffler fix did not last very long - only a few dozen miles I'm sorry to say.  I then reverted to header wrap tape held on by metal zip ties.  The zip ties didn't last either so I switched to hose clamps in a never ending downward spiral.... In the middle of my first long trip on the 550 to West Virginia the #4 muffler finally separated from the header:

after which I ran to the auto parts store for whatever I could find to keep her together:

This jury rig has held up well... so far.  Fingers crossed that this will last until the winter when I either repair or replace the muffler system with repro 4 into 4s or I ask one of my ADV buddies with welding skillz to patch this system up for me.  I wonder if this is still feasible given the sad state of #4...
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