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« Reply #175 on: January 07, 2020, 01:20:48 AM »
ah ok, i thought the plastic parts had given out on yours. indeed, mine doesn't seem to have any problems (yet) with that steel sleeve.

beer tap on the boat with a 100l tank underneath... now you're talking  8)
if you ever do go for cans, check the quality of the materials carefully. in know some brewers here whose cans were so flimsy or thin or crappily sealed that they popped open when they just fell over or tumbled around in the car. not good on a boat - not good anywhere unless you like your beer around your ankles instead of down your throat.

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« Reply #176 on: January 07, 2020, 01:28:21 AM »
Beer around my ankles still beats broken glass around the same ankles, but I'd prefer neither indeed. Oh well, already decided can sealers are too expensive for me.

I considered laying a weld around the sleeve perimeter as a redneck fix, but before I got around to that, the new bottle cap press appeared as a birthday gift. My friends of course having no ulterior motives whatsoever to help my brewing along  ;D

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« Reply #177 on: January 07, 2020, 06:40:53 PM »
Spotty's pointed out that my capping tool, (annoyingly the most expensive one at the home brew shop) isn't crushing the caps as well as it should, which could be a source of the "low fizz" issue. I'll go back and buy another one, and hopefully it'll do a better job.

In the meantime, I've been chauffeuring my 91 year old Ma and big sister around the state from Bairnsdale, the bush fire capital of Victoria. Last night I braved parking amongst around 30 cop cars in my Ma's slightly unroadworthy old Subaru and went to the bottle shop to pick up some Ginger Joes, and I found some other Ginger  Beers that I had't seen before, so I bought several of everything. Tonight I'm going to conduct a "head to head" shootout, in the interests of science, of course.

My only problem is that now that I have a stomach capacity of around half a pint, I can't drink very much, or very fast, and usually one or two bottles of GJ (8% Alkyhole) will pretty much knock me out, so I'm not sure how many I'll get down before my subjectivity becomes irrelevant. Oh well, it's for a noble cause, so I'll do my best, even if the results will be worthless........... ;D

Ginger Beer shootout 8 Jan 2020 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr   
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« Reply #178 on: January 08, 2020, 12:48:28 AM »
OK, considering my tiny tummy issues, I've decided that I can remember how good the Ginger Joe and Crabbies tastes, so I've concentrated on giving the smaller containers.

The Ginger Kid was my first victim, it contains "Ginger, water, sugar and yeast", according to the label, and tastes very much like home brew. Not bad though, but not my favourite, Spotty's "kit" home brew was just as good, but 8% alcohol. Next was "Rusty Yak", which tastes like a sweet Bundaberg non alcoholic ginger beer soft drink, except it's 3.5% alcohol. Definitely not my fave.

I'll try the "Fat Pixie" next, but considering the effect that alcohol has on me nowadays, I thought I better type this while I can still feel my fingers. ;D   
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« Reply #179 on: January 08, 2020, 03:20:47 AM »
Well I'm impressed with myself, I'm still conscious after drinking the can of Fat Pixie. (8%) Not very nice, has a weird chemical aftertaste that makes it taste kind of "smokey" (nothing to do with the bushfire smoke that has blanketed Melbourne) and artificial. Still, for some reason I have more cans of Fat Pixie than anything else so being summer I'll drink it, but it's not a replacement for Ginger Joe, or even the swill I'm making. ;D   
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« Reply #180 on: January 09, 2020, 11:41:01 AM »
Brewed an American red ale today.  Basically an Irish red ale but with Willamette hops, because that's what I had on hand.  It's the first time I've done this one, so it will be cool to see how it comes out. 

I'm drinking a basic British pale that just finished carbonating yesterday, and I have an oatmeal stout in another fermenter that will get kegged in about three weeks. 

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« Reply #181 on: January 09, 2020, 11:54:21 AM »
nicely busy there, gordon!

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« Reply #182 on: January 09, 2020, 12:03:53 PM »
nicely busy there, gordon!

Indeed!

I'm actually trying to tone it down at least a little.  I have too many hobbies to maintain, and not enough time.  I figure if I get myself on a bi-weekly brewing/kegging schedule I can keep two different style batches going at all times and compress most of the work into just two days per month.  And as a bonus I can ferment each new batch on the yeast from the previous batch of a similar style, which will save me about 20 bucks per month.   

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« Reply #183 on: January 09, 2020, 12:16:43 PM »
I have too many hobbies to maintain, and not enough time. 

tell me about it! luckily there's work do distract me from all the other stuff, at least once in a while  ;D
your schedule sounds efficient. i wouldn't be able to maintain it myself, am away too much on travels which limits the periods when i can tend to the beer. on average i seem to get 2 brews done per year, that's pretty sad in comparison.

let us know how the red ale/american hops turns out once it's done. i was thinking of trying a hoppier red next time as an experiment.

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« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2020, 04:58:30 PM »
Well almost 3 weeks (where has the time gone? I'm back to work on Thursday, damnit!) after bottling batch #4, I thought I better sample some to see how it's matured, and if it is fizzy enough. I needn't have worried, I almost shat my pants when I saw how distended the plastic bottle was, due to the carbonisation process.

If you can't quite gather how much the bottle has swelled, you can faintly see the original level 3/4 of an inch or so above the current level? The plastic was so hard I couldn't squeeze it at all. 

Terry's Explosive Ginger Beer 1 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

The screw on cap was trying to fail, but it was still (just) holding, and there was tons of fizz.

Terry's Explosive Ginger Beer by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Anyway, it had fizz, and after chilling, it tasted pretty damn good too. I'd hate to know what the alcohol content is though, after about 2/3 of the 750ml bottle, my face was falling off and I had to put it back in the fridge and open up a Crabbies Ginger Beer (4% alcohol) to sober up again. Oh well, I'm happy to call this one, a win. ;D
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« Reply #185 on: January 11, 2020, 11:12:40 PM »
why don't you use glass bottles? plastic seems like looking for trouble  :o

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« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2020, 11:20:04 PM »
why don't you use glass bottles? plastic seems like looking for trouble  :o

Thanks mate, I bought them because I was short a few bottles, but they're actually rated for booze, so this just shows how gassy this brew is. I have 50-odd glass bottles full of bre #4, hopefully they won't explode and send shards of glass in all directions, as often happens with home brew. ;D
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« Reply #187 on: January 12, 2020, 01:10:10 AM »
"terry's ginger grenade"  ;D

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« Reply #188 on: January 12, 2020, 01:32:13 AM »
Strangely that's the effect it has on yer arse the next day........
i blame Terry

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« Reply #189 on: January 12, 2020, 03:48:05 AM »
Strangely that's the effect it has on yer arse the next day........

That is true, especially when you drink a couple of litres at a time, like you do! ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #190 on: January 12, 2020, 11:54:22 AM »
Good to hear this one is, err... Successful.

Now finetune the bottling sugar (drops) down a little and you'll be an expert brewer in no time at all 8)

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« Reply #191 on: January 12, 2020, 03:58:34 PM »
Thanks mate, I need to make another batch to further refine my skills. I used a dark Malt extract on this brew because the home brew shop had run out of light malt, so the flavour of this brew is slightly akin to a stout beer, like Guiness, so not as good as Brew #1, which was better than the commercial crap (Rusty Yak, Ginger Kid and Fat Pixie) that I'm currently drinking. If I have any of Brew #4 left by then I'll pass it on to Spotty, he seems to enjoy my Ginger Beer almost as much as I do! ;D
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« Reply #192 on: March 22, 2020, 05:50:55 PM »
After following this thread, as well as Terry's Kawasaki thread,  I decided to brew up a batch of the Ginger beer he has been talking about for the last couple of months.  Going into the fermenter later tonight.  I am planning on following it up with a batch of "Skeeter Pee" AKA Lemon wine.  I've had a special request to make some of it still (not carbonated) and backsweetened rather than carbonated and dry, we'll see.  Probably do half and half.
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« Reply #193 on: March 22, 2020, 06:14:55 PM »
Go for it mate, I haven't kept this thread updated on my progress, but I went back to the basis for the last two brews, just ginger, lemon juice, sugar, water and yeast, and the results were/are delightful. I found that I'd just deviated too far from the original recipe, and added unwanted flavors.  It's that old Army acronym, :"KISS", "Keep it simple, stupid" ;D
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« Reply #194 on: April 24, 2020, 09:17:08 AM »
No more bottling for me!  Picked up this keezer yesterday.  Just ordered all new lines and faucet rebuild kits as it was put away dirty.  Took the taps apart last night and filled it with the last of my bottled brew and some soda for the kids.  The next batch is going into kegs!  Current plans call for two homebrew taps, one soda water tap for mixers and the kids, and a rotating minikeg (5L) from some of the local breweries. 

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« Reply #195 on: September 01, 2020, 08:51:36 AM »
Whoops. I may have my first completely ruined batch now. A UK Pale, with yeast rated for 20-25C.

However during fermenting, a massive heatwave struck. Based on the SG, fermentation still completed, even if it seemed to have ended pretty abruptly.

So I bottled it at about 30c, with the usual bottle sugar. But by then the house had warmed up to such an extent that there was no place to be found cooler than 28 or so. Obviously ideally you want 10 degrees less... So I piled the cases into the ground floor bathroom (that was the coolest place) and hoped for the best.

End of story, 3 weeks later it cleared up nicely but still tastes pretty much the same as the day it was bottled.  Fizz and foam are weak at best. Maybe I'll wait another week or two before pourng it all down the sink...

So what happened here? Did my yeast die of heat stroke?

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« Reply #196 on: September 05, 2020, 12:29:24 PM »
Whoops. I may have my first completely ruined batch now. A UK Pale, with yeast rated for 20-25C.

However during fermenting, a massive heatwave struck. Based on the SG, fermentation still completed, even if it seemed to have ended pretty abruptly.

So I bottled it at about 30c, with the usual bottle sugar. But by then the house had warmed up to such an extent that there was no place to be found cooler than 28 or so. Obviously ideally you want 10 degrees less... So I piled the cases into the ground floor bathroom (that was the coolest place) and hoped for the best.

End of story, 3 weeks later it cleared up nicely but still tastes pretty much the same as the day it was bottled.  Fizz and foam are weak at best. Maybe I'll wait another week or two before pourng it all down the sink...

So what happened here? Did my yeast die of heat stroke?


I would definitely give it some more time.  I doubt you killed the yeast.  The worst that will usually happen with higher fermenting temps is some flavors you weren't planning for, like banana esters.  For me 4 weeks was always my minimum bottle-conditioning time.  6-8 weeks usually gave the best results.  I'd say wait at least 2-3 more weeks before making a decision on this batch.   

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« Reply #197 on: September 05, 2020, 05:23:00 PM »
I've had great success this year with my home brewed ginger beer. It's extremely strong, and as I use all natural ingredients, the flavour is magnificent. I have a had a couple of occasions when for some reason the fermentation process has come to a halt due to the yeast "dying", so I've just added another sachet of yeast. (after a couple of fails using ridiculously expensive brewers yeast, I now use common bread making yeast, and it works just as good, or better than the stuff they sell at the home brew store)

Apart from not buying brewers yeast any more, I've also stopped using (again expensive) carbonation drops, I just add a teaspoon of white sugar per bottle, and I've stopped buying malt extract, replacing it with 2 kg of "Dark Brown" sugar which is available from my local supermarket for a fraction of the price, along with the root ginger, lemons, lemon juice and cane sugar. I bottled 28 litres last Monday and it's sitting out in the garage doing the carbonation thing, and I have another batch in the fermenter bubbling away happily in the kitchen as I type this.

I'm an experimenter, I can't help myself, so with the current batch I dumped in 4 bottles of a different brand of ginger beer that I had sitting in my garage beer fridge since last Christmas, (it wasn't very nice, so no loss) and last week I found a couple of large cans of alcoholic apple cider and dumped it in too, to enhance (?) the flavor. Of course every time I add something I have to do a taste test, and I'm happy to report that every time I test it, it just keeps getting better. I'm wondering what else I can throw in the fermenter to further enhance it, I've got a few bottles of white wine that I don't need, I may tip them in one at a time and continue the testing regime as I go. Isn't doing your own brewing fun? ;D

 
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« Reply #198 on: September 06, 2020, 03:35:46 AM »
Would you mind sharing your current version of the Ginger beer recipe Terry?
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« Reply #199 on: September 07, 2020, 08:21:55 PM »
Would you mind sharing your current version of the Ginger beer recipe Terry?

No problems mate, keep in mind this recipe is for a 28 litre (7.5 US gallon) batch, so you'll need to adjust it to suit your own batch size:

1.25 Kg (2.75 pounds) of fresh ginger root, washed.
6 lemons
250ml (.5 pint) lemon juice
4 pounds of dark brown sugar
12 pounds of cane or corn sugar
2 sachets (14 grams) (.5 ounce) of bread yeast

Method:

Cut the ginger and wash it in room temp water to scrub off any dirt. Place it in a food processor, and chop it up fine, adding a little water (a couple of cupfulls) to turn it into a slurry.
Put a large pot on your stove and dump the ginger slurry in, and bring it to a simmer, adding a pint or two of water, as necessary.
Pour the lemon juice in
Grate the 6 lemon's rind (zest) into the ginger slurry, don't allow any of the white "Pith" to go in, as it adds bitterness
Cut and juice those 6 lemons and tip the strained juice (no pips) into the slurry.
Add more water as necessary, I use a 2.5 gallon stainless steel pot so there's no chance of overflowing
Add the 4 pounds of dark brown sugar and stir in well with a wooden spoon. This adds a "Malty" flavour.
Add enough water to completely dissolve the sugar
Add as much (if not all) of the corn or cane sugar, and continue to stir as it simmers, so nothing coagulates or burns in the bottom of the pot.
Allow to simmer for an hour, continually stirring, and enjoy the fragrance. Turn the stove off, and allow to cool as long as you like, I used to leave it to cool overnight, but I now dump it into my fermenter pretty much after an hour or so of simmering.

BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO SCALD YOURSELF!!!!!!

Filling your fermenter:

Using a large, fine mesh strainer (I found one at a 2 dollar shop that fits into the top of my sanitised fermenter perfectly) CAREFULLY tip the slurry into the fermenter. Some of the juice will immediately run through the strainer into the fermenter.
Boil your kettle and repeatedly pour the boiling water through the slurry in the strainer to wash the sugars and juice through the strainer. Hot tap water is fine, as long as it's hot enough to dissolve the sugars and push them through the strainer into the fermenter.

I use a potato masher to push the juices and sugars through the strainer. By the time you have almost filled your fermenter, the slurry should be much lighter in color. You can either keep it to make a nice ginger cake, or like me, throw it out because I don't like fcuking ginger cakes..........

Make sure there's enough room between the top of your brew and the lid (2 inches is good) so that the gases can escape through your bubbler. I've had a couple of occurrences where mine wouldn't start to "burp" until I reduced the level of liquid in the fermenter.

NOW THIS PART IS REALLY IMPORTANT:

Let the mixture cool, preferably overnight, to room temperature (it ranges a bit but I use 24 deg C or 75 deg F as an average) then add the yeast. I stir it in with a special tool (okay, it's long plastic shoe horn, but it works for me) but you don't really need to, I just like to.

Put the lid on your fermenter, and shove your bubbler in it's bung, and fill it halfway with water, and put the cap on. It won't start bubbling for a few hours so don't worry when it doesn't start right away, but it will happily bubble away for as long as you want to leave it in your fermenter. I've left mine in for a minimum of 2 weeks, but I find the longer (within reason) I leave it, the better it tastes, so I've stretched it out to a month, which I find to be just right.

If during this time the bubbling stops, don't panic, give it a stir and add another satchet of yeast, and it'll start again.

BOTTLING TIME! :

You'll need enough bottles to bottle all but the last pint of mud in the bottom of the fermenter, and enough caps. Glass bottles are best, brown glass bottles are better, plastic bottles aren't great, but if that's all you've got, fair enough. Put your fermenter up on the bench and give it a stir, and then leave it all day for the dregs to settle on the bottom.

Sanitise all your bottles and drain them.

Place a teaspoon of corn or cane sugar in each bottle, then fill with the ginger brew, (leave an inch of space between the top of your brew and the top of the bottle) and cap tightly. Once you've done all of them, place them in cartons (to keep the sunlight out) and store them at room temperature. My wife makes me store mine in the garage due to an earlier explosion for which I haven't yet been forgiven, so be careful in the hotter months as it doesn't take kindly to to much heat during the "Carbonation" stage. 

Leave your bottled booze at least 2 weeks at room temperature before you start drinking it. Carbonation time is determined by temperature, so in cold climates, it'll take longer. By then it will be very flavorful, and fizzy, not to mention extremely alcoholic, so don't drink it then ride a bike, operate machinery, practise your trick shooting skills, apply for a loan, demonstrate your singing/dancing/skateboarding/nunchuck skills, or call an old girlfriend (or boyfriend) on the spur of the moment.

Always wash out and thoroughly sanitise all of your brewing gear, I use a "No rinse" sanitiser, which should be available from most good brewing shops.

Enjoy! ;D 

Ginger beer bottling 14 Jul 2020 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr


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