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Offline tdskip

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Hope everyone is having a good week so far.

Hit a bit of a roadblock today on waking up the 1980 CB750F. With a rear brake master rebuild kit in hand I went to remove the circlip on the rear M/C only to find that it is completely rusted in place and I can't remove it. Bummer but no biggie, right, just get a new one. Well I've looked for replacement M/C but nothing is available. I saw some used ones on eBay but iffy that they won't have the same issue or have good bores.

Any ideas on sourcing?

Thanks!

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Re: Ugh - rear brake master cylinder is toast and replacements are NLA
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2019, 07:07:04 PM »
Soak the MC in EvapoRust then it should come apart for inspection .
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Re: Ugh - rear brake master cylinder is toast and replacements are NLA
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2019, 07:15:32 PM »
Thanks for the response, let me give that a try.

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Re: Ugh - rear brake master cylinder is toast and replacements are NLA
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2019, 07:40:08 PM »
Is Evaporust safe for aluminum?
I've managed to get very stuck rear MC snap-rings loose a couple of times. The trick is to get the clip free to rotate in it's groove, before attempting to remove with the proper snap-ring pliers. Lots of your favorite flavor of penetrating oil will help flush out the corrosion.
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Re: Ugh - rear brake master cylinder is toast and replacements are NLA
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2019, 08:40:24 PM »
The EvapoRust won't hurt the aluminium, soak it overnight. If the paint is compromised you will have to repaint but good paint stays on. It won't hurt the rubber parts either. Clean the MC out with brake clean as best you can before you dunk it, oily stuff ruins the EvapoRust.
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1974 Honda CB 550 K0                                            1971 MGB/GT
1975 Honda CB 400F Super Sport                          1972 MGB/GT
1977 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD                                   1985 GMC S15
1978 Kawasaki KL 250
1980 Suzuki GS 1100E
1982 Honda CB 900F Super Sport
1983 Honda CB 1100F
1984 Honda VF 700S Sabre
1984 Honda VF 1000F Interceptor
1990 Moto Guzzi 1000 Le Mans
1994 Kawasaki Concours ZG 1000A9
2005 Harley Davidson Fat Boy

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Re: Ugh - rear brake master cylinder is toast and replacements are NLA
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2019, 04:41:46 PM »
 The circle clip may be just the beginning of the fun.  If the masters are like the F model bikes from 75-78 getting the piston out can be a real chore also. If you get that far I may have a tip to help.

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Re: Ugh - rear brake master cylinder is toast and replacements are NLA
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2019, 07:21:23 PM »
Not sure about the later years, but my 1975 cb750F had the same issue. Previous owner tried to drill out the piston and totally FUBARED it (Fu*#ed Up Beyond All Recognition). NLA, but one from a Honda GL1000 bolted right up.

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Re: Ugh - rear brake master cylinder is toast and replacements are NLA
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2019, 03:21:32 PM »
  I drilled a snap ring groove from the outside into it's edge and the snap ring that had no ends remaining just popped out. The 1/16" hole didn't hurt anything.  It was early and worth saving. 
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Re: Ugh - rear brake master cylinder is toast and replacements are NLA
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2019, 02:35:27 PM »
I put an inexpensive Ebay rear master on my '76 750F last year. I had to fab up a bracket and a stop bolt to get it mounted so that it didn't rotate when the pedal pushed the piston up, but otherwise it was an easy job. If originality doesn't matter I would not be too concerned with fixing the original.
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