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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2019, 04:36:32 pm »
What a great job bringing this survivor back into service.
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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2019, 05:17:26 pm »
very nice!...a job well done
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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2019, 07:28:38 pm »
Wow, nice job!
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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2019, 08:44:54 pm »
Anyone want to second my nomination: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,176614.0.html
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2019, 12:22:53 pm »
Thanks, guys!
So, I took off the spark plugs after ~100 kms of highway driving (speed roughly 90...100 km/h, revs 5000...5500) to assess a/f mixtures in cylinders. I'm no expert in spark plug colors but afaik I'd say I'm pretty happy how they look. Spark plugs are NOS NGK D-7ES. I've got some spoiled (with rich mixture) NGK D-8EA(?)s to try out if I'm on the 'hotter' side with D-7ESs.





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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2019, 04:27:50 pm »
Great job! 
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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2019, 10:04:13 am »
So, I've done ~660 km and having few issues.

1. Clutch has started to rattle. Tried some adjustments but eventually it will make the noise again. I read from the forums that this kind of rattle is normal, but damn, it was quiet for few hundred kms after engine rebuild.

2. Small oil leak from right valve cover end cap or somewhere near that. Will take the small cover off and investigate it, I believe there are three possible leak sources - those two O-rings and the bolt that holds the end cover fastening bracket in place.



3. And the BIGGEST issue that is driving me crazy - front brake noise/squeal. To me it seems that the brake piston is not fully retracting and eventually the pads and disc will start to make 'whistling' noise. Really annoying in low speeds and in city traffic.

Pads are always in slight contact with disc and I am unable to adjust the gap between disc and brake. I've tried it event with pushing the in first. No effect at all. Brake pads were the first things I replaced when I got the bike and now I'm running the TRW brake pad set as it was the only set available here.

What I have done so far with the brake:
- rebuilt master cylinder
- replaced piston seal
- replaced all the hoses
- flushed the system and new DOT4 brake fluid
- new diaphragm
- disc 'skimmed' in lathe (thickness now is about 6.4 mm)
- pressure relief passageway in MC cleaned multiple times
- new wheel bearings

And now I'm out of ideas. OK, I didn't 'polish' the inside of brake caliper (where the piston sits), but I cleaned it and the groove where the seal sits in. And piston has 4-5 tiny rust pits that I slightly (locally) sanded. But I've worked on various disc brakes before and these small defects have had no such effect. Is the piston not moving freely or is this issue connected to the brake pads? I still have the old brake pads and will try them on again, even tho they are worn down to the limit...
Oh, one more thing, brake will start to make even louder noise when I heavily bank to the right on low speeds.








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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2019, 11:55:30 am »
Is it in constant contact or partial (indicating warped rotor)? You could explore grinding/thinning the rotor.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2019, 12:12:50 pm »
There is lots of stuff that helps temporarily.  It really is a primitive design.  Basically, if every single part of your braking system is absolutely perfect, you might be able to stop it.  Lots of guys just get used to it and ride on
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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2019, 12:44:43 pm »
Basically it is in slight constant contact with the rotor. I myself turned (removed material) the rotor in a lathe, removing 0.8 mm of material to get it straight as an arrow (possible warp from mounting accuracy in lathe ~0.04 mm).

Strange thing is that when the whole system wasn't perfect (rebuilt with new parts, warped rotor) it seemed to retract the piston well. I remember I managed to adjust the caliper holder successfully  ???

Took the brake pads off and I noticed that they have no chamfered edges as did the old have. Then I grinded chamfer to outer edges, applied some plasti lube and did a few km test run. Still in contact with the rotor. Had no more time to do a longer test run. Usually it starts making squeaky noises after about 15 kms. Also, new brake pad on piston side seems to be much looser than the original one, which was pretty tight in its place.


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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2019, 01:25:45 pm »
Is your pivot arm directly attached to the fork leg with the fender attached to the pivot arm ? If it is the other way around (fender attached to the fork leg first) then this will cause misalignment issues. Looking at your picture of the caliper / rotor. they don't look to be parallel to me.

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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2019, 09:26:56 am »
One thing that can help reduce the clutch rattle is to synchronize the carbs, if you haven't done so already.

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Re: splitter's 1974 CB500
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2019, 02:46:04 pm »
Great looking man you got threre!

What are your thoughts on the Heidenau tires?
I'm thinking of putting them on my CB as well  :)