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Offline 90blacknight

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Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« on: January 12, 2020, 09:01:18 AM »
Hello all,

I've got a 78 550k and upon removing the oil pan to inspect/clean, I found a nut sitting at the bottom of the pan. This has me concerned. It came from somewhere. The engine runs great with great compression across all cylinders. No mysterious noises or the like. Where did this nut likely come from? I'm I having to tear into this motor?

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2020, 09:07:11 AM »
Make a couple more posts and you should be able to add a picture, or tell us the size. 

My first thought is a valve adjuster nut.  Remove the valve adjuster covers and check to see if they're all there. 

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2020, 09:16:34 AM »
Yes, same size as a valve adjuster nut except they are all in place. Perhaps somebody previously dropped a nut and then replaced it. Anywhere else this could have come from?

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2020, 09:20:34 AM »
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This has me concerned. It came from somewhere.
I agree, it came from somewhere.

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2020, 09:22:45 AM »
Yes, same size as a valve adjuster nut except they are all in place. Perhaps somebody previously dropped a nut and then replaced it. Anywhere else this could have come from?
The only other nuts inside the 550 that I can think of right now are the rod bolts' nuts. You'd sure know if one of those came loose! It it was a valve adjuster's nut, one side (at least) will have a flat surface that almost looks like a washer, where it is precision-ground flat to hold well. Many have this feature on both sides. Rod nuts are similar. They are fancier than ordinary nuts.
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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2020, 09:56:08 AM »
No marks on the nut as it can get if enter the gearbox?

A std nut with no marks, no rod bolt nut means a happy ending :)
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K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
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Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2020, 10:04:26 AM »
Do adjuster nuts and rod nuts have the same threads?
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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2020, 10:07:03 AM »
Nope
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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2020, 10:22:29 AM »
Check the adjuster nuts to see if one appears different. If it does, someone lost one in the motor and replaced it. If the PO used a proper matching nut of course, that can't be proven.
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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2020, 11:02:10 AM »
At first glance they all appeared to be the same, with the same blackened look, whereas this one is shiny; perhaps from sitting in the oil? I can verify the threads to see if this is indeed a valve adjustment nut. I'll post back later with some pictures.

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2020, 12:02:59 PM »
If same adjuster screw as CB750, fine thread not std nut.
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2020, 05:44:00 PM »
Here is a the nut:

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2020, 06:28:34 PM »
That sure looks like a tappet nut!
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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2020, 07:18:41 PM »
Coarse threads??
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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2020, 11:19:12 PM »
yes, looks like a tappet nut.

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2020, 08:56:02 AM »
So, given that the nut doesn't appear damaged, I should consider myself lucky and carry on? Thanks all!

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2020, 09:29:26 AM »
you may have gotten lucky.
of course, if you're the paranoid type, you'll ask yourself: what else may be in there?
but if the engine ran fine so far, it may have been sitting in that pan for decades already without anything else being wrong.

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2020, 10:17:30 AM »
Yes running just fine prior to starting the mild restoration. Agreed, that nut may have been there for decades.

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Re: Where did this come from? Nut in oil pan
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2020, 08:40:41 PM »
If its coarse thread its from the cam cap stud..
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