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Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« on: November 12, 2019, 03:18:25 AM »
So the other day I was working on the cam chain tensioner of the CB twin in the garage, and needed an extra lamp pretty much every step of the way.
And that means positioning it just right, dropping it, tossing it over, dealing with working in your own shadow, cursing... you know how it goes.
Also YES I have reached 40 and that does mean I start needing a bit more light to see what the *beep* I'm doing  ::)

The garage came with a single fluorescent ceiling fixture, a bit off-center in the middle. And no hope of daylight in the "keep that door shut!" season. Unsurprisingly, that doesn't cut it. But what does?

The garage is about 6x3m (20x10ft for the non-metric) and is almost as tall as it is wide at 260cm / 8.5ft.

I never quite got lighting right in my old garage either, despite multiple ceiling fixtures, and now I'm redecorating my new garage, so I'd like to have another go.

Have to say I also prefer a warm-ish tone and high CRI, but that's more about the type of fixture, not placement.

How do you do this? Got bright ideas for bike work lighting?  8)


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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2019, 03:52:48 AM »
i gor some led 1.20 meter led tubes 18= 36watt..as i put in my old amatures..got them from" any lamp"- b,v hooge zijde 5626 Eindhoven

they light nice bright and vhite..not yellov som manyolder lights give..and 36 kroner pro stk..is half preis (in denmark)
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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2019, 04:10:38 AM »
I bought some 4 foot leds from sams club,I believe they are honeywell.they are 5000 lumens? And the were about 50 bucks a pair and they work real well

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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2019, 04:26:16 AM »
Thanks! Will definitely be looking for some kind of LED fixture. Making my own light tubes isn't out of the question either, from LED strips or smth, available in any sort of brightness and color temperature these days (I truly don't see the appeal of harsh blue-white-ish headache-lamps).

But the question is more about placement than about the type of fixture.

Fancy sh*t like this:


Ok, maybe not :-)

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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2019, 04:43:46 AM »
I like this idea though, lights under shelves all around to create some indirect/side lighting on your project...

(Edit: Pic from the internet, not my garage!)
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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2019, 06:17:41 AM »
My 2-car garage came with one 60w incandescent bulb. I recently got two of the LED 4' fixtures and ditched the incandescent bulb for a brighter LED bulb = much brighter garage.
 The light that gets the most use though is the spring loaded retractable work lamp, hung from the door opener frame. It's not a fancy one, just homeowner grade, but it has done the job.... and my bride is willing to to hold it exactly where it's needed, until her phone rings, haha.
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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2019, 08:58:03 AM »
Web, nice shop you have three and I like the 650 project..
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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2019, 11:54:31 AM »
Whoa i wish! That's a sample picture of an idea i like, stolen off the interwebs... I'll include some real pics in a bit.

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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2019, 12:41:57 PM »
I used these in my garage:  https://www.costco.com/feit-4'-linkable-led-shop-light%2c-2-pack.product.100462723.html

I purchased six fixtures, when I had 4 of them up evenly spaced around the ceiling, my now ex came out to the garage with her eyes squinted and said "you're done, right?".  Since then I have used the other two in some task lighting spots specifically over work benches.  The nice thing is, even though my garage isn't heated, they turn on instantly, even when the temperature approaches 0 degF.  :-\
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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2019, 07:18:13 AM »
My shop has two rows of 5 two tube 8' florescent lights at a ceiling height of 12'. I have been waiting for LED lights to come down in price to change over. I have a 4' two tube fixture that I hung over the lathe with LED tubes in it and if it is any indication when I change the shop over to LED it will be really bright. 8) 
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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2019, 08:09:26 AM »
  I bought 3 LED fixtures at Menards. They light well but destroyed my fm radio signal. I replaced them with 3 others after being assured the new ones are RF noise compliant. They are, and now the radio works fine. Recently we had a rebate from Menards and bought 4 new led fixtures, again different than the last set, they are brighter and really light up the shop nicely with no radio interference. Yesterday I noticed the second batch  has a 1/2 light not working already. 
  The old RF noisey ones are leaning against the garage wall, I may hang them in the crawl space where they are rarely used but bright when needed.
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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2019, 02:31:02 PM »
some thoughts without getting technical on the type of lights as many others seem to have that covered....

paint the floor a light colour ( white or light grey ) this will reflect light back upwards , and as an added bonus makes it much easier to find escaped washers, nuts etc. a mate of mine painted his bright yellow which he reckons helps heaps but by feck its a bit much, and he's mad as a box of frogs anyway

mount strip lights at waist height as well as on the roof, this will cast light straight out as well as upwards/down etc. another friend has her garage set up for detailing her 70s ford coupe and she claims its indispensable for getting rid of shadows

adjustable roof or wall mounted spotlights that can be swivelled from bench to bike stand ( obviously you need to mount them at a height you can reach without getting the stepladder out every time you want to move them)

one of them torches that you wear on your head ( camping/bicycle/hiking sort of stuff) especially handy when you're trying to see what you're doing underneath a bike or car, there are also baseball caps with led's in the front edge of the peak
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Re: Mancave thread - Garage lighting
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2019, 05:15:23 AM »
Thanks - lots of useful ideas! Lemme post a back story of this little Amsterdam garage/workshop.

Day one - back in August. True to tradition, after receiving the keys to a new place, I started on the garage.
SWMBO approved, on the premise it would be a nice dust-free place to stash not-yet-unpacked stuff when moving in.  :P
Also I need a basis to do the work on the rest of the house from, right? Thought so.

The first to go was the little wall in the back. Here's part of it still standing, with part of the door frame leading to the little room behind it - the former laundry room.
Who makes the laundry room two floors down from the bedroom? So step one was booting the washing machine upstairs and knocking down that wall to extend the garage :-)



Then the same day I got the key, after rushing to get the wall and bottom row of insulation panels out, the flooring guy came to prime... sand...


... and paint...


Notice the walls and ceiling are padded in thick insulation, except where the shelves are. This is because the house was built in 2006 under strict energy/insulation code. The builders apparently didn't want to invest in an insulated garage door. So instead, they slapped the cheapest wood shavings / styrofoam sandwich panel insulation they could find, all over the walls and ceiling. That placed the whole garage outside the house's insulated shell. But not only is that stuff butt ugly, I obviously wanted a warm workspace. And a bigger one. Because if you have nearly half foot of insulation all around a 9 foot wide garage - it turns into a 10 foot wide garage with that stuff removed.

By now I've taken that down from all the walls and part of the ceiling, and am liking the difference.

So I set out to insulate the garage door instead - a simple single-layer metal tilt-up jobbie, heavily distorted by wide angle lens here:



Ok - all that's done now.

Here's what I have so far, same corner without the fisheye, behind a slightly dusty sohc/4:



You only get to see a small corner because the rest is a mess, having cleared all the shelves that were on this wall  :P

Color is RAL7031 blue/gray, extended onto a sorta smudge-proof band along the wall, conveniently ending just above half tire-height.
The rest of the wall I painted bright white, to spread the light...
The long wall and back wall are solid concrete, all others are crumbly gypsum blocks.

I'm putting the shelf rails back on but higher up, the bottom shelf at about workbench height. The idea is the front wheel of a motorbike fits underneath for space-saving parking, as do engine blocks and other large objects.
Maybe add some shelving above the workbench in the former laundry corner, to make maximum use of that strong concrete wall for storage.

On the crumbly-walled side, I'm probably making a french cleat style tool wall, a bit like THIS

I guess for lighting, the floor could have been a few shades lighter, but that's too late now - the floor was a bit of a last-minute decision anywaty, to get it done before it would get really difficult to clear the floor again.

What I could do instead is add some lights under the bottom shelf. Being at workbench height, only half of the wall below it is grey, the top half is still white, lending itself for spreading light towards the side of a project being worked on.

I also like Spotty's (what's in a name?) spotlight idea! will have a think how that could fit in. I guess maybe one of those desk lamps with a long sprung/hinged arm could be wall or shelf mounted for this purpose.
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