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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #400 on: July 27, 2020, 02:46:54 AM »
Replaced the 9 year old original rubber on the NC with some Michelin Road 5 and thought no better place to break them in than Southern Ohio.....



I'm starting to think SR 374 in Hocking Hills is more fun than the more widely known SR 555.  Down and back came to 236.9 miles, averaged 76.65 mpg.  I'm loving this NC700X lol


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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #401 on: July 27, 2020, 03:35:59 AM »
Metzeler ME-99 was a very good rear in the 80's.
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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #402 on: July 27, 2020, 05:32:45 AM »
Metzeler ME-99 was a very good rear in the 80's.

They were garbage on my BMW R100RS Per, it may just have been that they weren't suited (even though Metzler and BMW have been partners for years) they would follow every gouge in the road and slipped on every wet white line, tram track, manhole cover etc. I was about to put a third set on it (I had that bike for 12 years and hated it, but it cost me so much money I wanted to get my money's worth) when Jack from K&N Motorcycles told me about a new Bridgestone tyre (BT45) that was cheaper than the Metzlers, and were so good that Rex Wolfenden (The "W" in K&W) was using them on his CB750 based "TRex" race bikes, and winning races.

I stayed with BT45's for many years after that, and only went to Pirelli's and Michelins in recent years. The massive Metzlers on the Rocket III (240 rear, 180 front) have been remarkable though, I was told by other R3 owners that I'd be lucky to get 4000 miles out of a rear and so far I've done 8500, but I will have to think about selling a kidney and buying new rubber for it this summer, if I'm allowed to ride again by then. ;D
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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #403 on: July 27, 2020, 09:43:42 AM »
Well, that didn't take long....  how many miles can I get out of a Road 5 rear tire...  about 530 miles

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #404 on: July 27, 2020, 11:28:06 AM »
Possible to repair with a plug?
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #405 on: July 27, 2020, 01:31:29 PM »

Man, that bites! Makes you want to have road hazard coverage for motorcycle tires, but no one offers it.
Sorry to see that.
Guess it belongs as a cross post in the pissed off thread.

Well, that didn't take long....  how many miles can I get out of a Road 5 rear tire...  about 530 miles


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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #406 on: July 27, 2020, 05:43:21 PM »
Well, that didn't take long....  how many miles can I get out of a Road 5 rear tire...  about 530 miles



I had 3 punctures in 3 weeks on my Yamaha FJR1300 back in 2016, I lived in a new housing estate, and there were nails and screws all over the road. I copped one in the side like that, so I bought a tyre plugger kit (not that sticky string garbage, a proper plugger kit that mechanically forces a rubber mushroom plug into the hole) and filled both tyres with slime (water based sealant) and have ridden a couple of thousand miles since, at speeds of up to 150 MPH (only on private roads, your honor....) without any problems. ;D

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Stop-Go-International-Stop-Go-Pocket-Tire-Plugger-for-Tubeless-Tires-1000/231758768474?_trkparms=aid%3D1110009%26algo%3DSPLICE.COMPLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200220094952%26meid%3D1f56cd1cf76241939e42ac2c3461e416%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D114308224135%26itm%3D231758768474%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DStop+%26+Go&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219
« Last Edit: July 28, 2020, 12:04:43 AM by Terry in Australia »
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #407 on: July 27, 2020, 09:32:48 PM »
Link to Terry's kit on ebay USA:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Stop-Go-International-Stop-Go-Pocket-Tire-Plugger-FOR-TUBELESS-TIRES/223840957949?epid=5029685612&hash=item341df5f5fd:g:U8UAAOSwDYZeFfm5

They start just under $35 buy it now with free shipping and go up over $50 plus shipping.

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #408 on: July 28, 2020, 12:06:09 AM »
Link to Terry's kit on ebay USA:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Stop-Go-International-Stop-Go-Pocket-Tire-Plugger-FOR-TUBELESS-TIRES/223840957949?epid=5029685612&hash=item341df5f5fd:g:U8UAAOSwDYZeFfm5

They start just under $35 buy it now with free shipping and go up over $50 plus shipping.

Thanks Alan, and they are magnificent if you are running a newer bike with modern tubeless tyres (tires) ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #409 on: July 28, 2020, 02:11:42 AM »
Having suffered crashes on motorcycles at speeds 25-110, in my opinion it is never a good idea to use a tire that has been punctured. No matter how well "repaired", your bones, and life are on the line here people.
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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #410 on: July 28, 2020, 02:23:17 AM »
Having suffered crashes on motorcycles at speeds 25-110, in my opinion it is never a good idea to use a tire that has been punctured. No matter how well "repaired", your bones, and life are on the line here people.

That's a great theory Michel, and points for self righteous indignation, but riddle me this, if you buy a used bike (like most of us mere mortals) how do you know if it's previously had a puncture? The answer of course, is you don't, and you'll keep riding it until 1. the tire deflates, or you decide to buy new rubber. No matter, I trust my own work over anyone I don't know, and if my bike suddenly spits me down the road, then so be it, it was meant to be. ;D 
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #411 on: July 28, 2020, 03:39:20 AM »
Put a tube in and twist the throttle if not trusting the old type of tire repair.

I should do that, maybe put rubber glue in hole to ensure no sand entering.

Have seen many car tires been repaired with a plug. Hole in tire drilled even bigger, a vulcanising rubber plug forced in and cut. Pump it and drive.

That how to fix a flat on a CB750, take out the nail and swap tube. I got a thick 5-6" nail in rear tire once. Replaced tube. Tried to patch the tube which did not hold up for long.
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The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #412 on: July 28, 2020, 04:04:52 AM »
Why do you need to drill the hole bigger Per? The plugger kit doesn't require the drilling that you mention, and to my knowledge, they don't recommend tubes in 180/55-17 tyres? Sounds like a local thing, perhaps? ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #413 on: July 28, 2020, 04:35:26 AM »
Well, that didn't take long....  how many miles can I get out of a Road 5 rear tire...  about 530 miles



Dennis, how well did you manage the deflation?
Far from home? Or find it in your driveway?
At speed?
Big wobble?
Ride it home?
Got a trailer? Or towing?

My last flat was from a roofing nail in the rear tire.
 I picked the nail up 50 miles from home while riding at 50mph. The bike wanted to cross the centerline but I slowed and wrassled it to the shoulder. I considered driving it home but thought better of it. My Good pal, with trailer, plank, rope, came and got me. The one and only time my CB failed to get me home.
 I put a patch on the inside of the tire, new tube, finished the season, got a new tire.
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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #414 on: July 28, 2020, 05:27:06 AM »
Why do you need to drill the hole bigger Per? The plugger kit doesn't require the drilling that you mention, and to my knowledge, they don't recommend tubes in 180/55-17 tyres? Sounds like a local thing, perhaps? ;D
OK, 180 might be too wide. I thought we were below 150.

The tire plugging guys at gas stations had a sharp tool they used to drill hole, quickly followed by the rubber plug pressed in with another tool. The hole after a screw or nail had to be widened Maybe they used a glue. Cut the stickout and fine to go. 5 minute job they charged $15-20US for.
No goo sprayed inside the entire wheel.

This was the old tech 15 years ago and decades earlier.
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #415 on: July 28, 2020, 10:25:11 AM »
how do you guys feel about a ride of 94.6 miles...
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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #416 on: July 28, 2020, 11:05:51 AM »
 My only flat tire I have ever had out on the road came to light while I was sitting at a stoplight in a small hick town. All was seemingly good when I stopped but when I took off I was like WTF. Rear end was squirming all over the place. I swear the air stays in better if you keep moving  8)

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #417 on: July 28, 2020, 02:57:15 PM »
how do you guys feel about a ride of 94.6 miles...

.... with a flat tire?
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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #418 on: July 28, 2020, 05:54:54 PM »
Why do you need to drill the hole bigger Per? The plugger kit doesn't require the drilling that you mention, and to my knowledge, they don't recommend tubes in 180/55-17 tyres? Sounds like a local thing, perhaps? ;D
OK, 180 might be too wide. I thought we were below 150.

The tire plugging guys at gas stations had a sharp tool they used to drill hole, quickly followed by the rubber plug pressed in with another tool. The hole after a screw or nail had to be widened Maybe they used a glue. Cut the stickout and fine to go. 5 minute job they charged $15-20US for.
No goo sprayed inside the entire wheel.

This was the old tech 15 years ago and decades earlier.

Yeah mate, you don't put tubes in modern bikes with wide, low profile tyres unless they're old school spoked wheels, so you don't have a choice. Well you do, you can drop $260 (AUD) for a new tyre every time you go over a nail, or you can use a plug. Tubeless tyres were developed to stop the incidence of blow-outs where the tube literally explodes inside the tyre, blowing a section of tyre out, and causing an immediate deflation, which can be deadly. Tubes in modern hyperbikes would not be a good idea. A tubeless tyre will slowly deflate, rather than immediately go flat.

Re: "drilling", I think that's a language thing, the tyre shops use a "reamer" or a "rasp" to clean the hole out before they install a plug, this doesn't increase the OD of the hole, it just ensures a "rubber on rubber" interface to better seal the repair. I used the water based slime not to seal the hole, but rather, as I was doing 1000 mile weekends at the time (riding from Canberra to Melbourne and back) I wanted some insurance that I wasn't gonna be sitting on the side of the road with a new nail or screw in my tyre.

I had a tube blow out on an Army XT600 back in the 90's, was riding on the freeway @ 60 MPH when the rear end went screwy, my mate John (on another bike) was pointing to the carnage as we slowly decelerated to the emergency lane, I'd had some experience with blowouts in Army Landrovers back then and the trick was not to panic, just gradually slow down to a halt. The tyre was still intact but a can of "Finilec" (tyre sealant/inflator) proved useless, just bubbling up through the spokes, but luckily a local business owner volunteered to load it into his pickup and store it there until we could collect it.

I was just happy it was a rear, and not a front, I bought the remains of a CB750 that had a front tube blow out when another mate was riding it across an old wooden bridge @ 60 MPH in 1979, which destroyed the bike, and almost killed him. There wasn't too much left that was still useable........... ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #419 on: July 28, 2020, 08:07:19 PM »
how do you guys feel about a ride of 94.6 miles...
Feel like you should have rode another 8 minutes ..
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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #420 on: July 28, 2020, 08:19:06 PM »
I had a front one go down fast, I was doing about70  75 mph...  I think I clenched so hard it ripped my seat..
 Anyway that was  the last time I ran slime on a spoked rim.

Now a front flat Dan get pretty exciting..


 Now add slime coming out of the blown tube, and lubing the now flat tire at 70 mph. .. the next morning I hitchhiked to a near by town,  bought 2 tubes... washed the slime out of the front one and put a new tube in ..what fun that was..
 I was probably pissed that I only made 5 or 600 miles the previous day.. due to the flat. .
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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #421 on: July 28, 2020, 08:36:28 PM »
Yep, no idea why anyone with half a brain would put slime in a tube Frank, thats just dumb. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #422 on: July 28, 2020, 09:48:44 PM »
   It was sold as a balancing fluid, with puncture sealing capability... not sure what the trade name was..
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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #423 on: July 29, 2020, 12:09:54 AM »
Wasn't there one sold that was a dry pellet or bead balancing thing? I'm pretty sure I saw it in an old thread? I remembered also that I did have sealant in one CB750's tyres. In 1983 I rode to the Bathurst Easter Motorcycle TT for the first time, on my K1. There was a guy selling a water based sealant that was supposed to balance your tyres as well as seal them, so as I'd seen a couple of bikes on the side of the road with flats, for 10 bucks per tyre he filled them with sealant and threw in a free schrader gauge. Must have worked as I never had a puncture on that bike. Sadly the bike has long gone, but I still have the gauge. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: 20 Rides 100miles or more, in 2020..
« Reply #424 on: July 29, 2020, 04:20:38 AM »
we still have some of that bead stuff at work in the accessories shelf, never asked anyone how it works, might do so should i ever return to work.......
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