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CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« on: April 01, 2013, 12:17:32 PM »
Hello from France,

As promised some months ago we made a refab of the primary rubber dampers for our CB750, K0 to F2 (also for Goldwing GL 1000).

These rubbers are often destroyed by oil and heat, they become very hard and can be cut in two parts or in little bits that can be found in the oil filter. They are located inside the primary driven sprocket, Honda ref. 23110-300-030, not available today, part # 3 below :




The kit contains :
-   12 rubber dampers with hardness matching original equipment
-   12 screws (90°), Ø 6 x 100, Length 15 mm, Class 10.9




Necessary tools :
- Ø 5  drill   
- Ø 6  drill
- 90°  mill
- a needle or a centering drill      
- Ø 5 mm drift punch
- a set of tap Ø 6 x 100 , Length 30 mini
- Left-turn wrench
- « loctite » (blue)

Before any operation, it is necessary to check position and assembly order of every part in order to stay conform to what has been unmounted and keep the current wear position. It is very important to remount every part in its original position.




Put down the bearing. Give a needle shot, well centered, above every head of the 6 rivets, on one single side.




Protect the needle bearing from potential chips (grease + cloth, tap…).
Drill the rivet head with a Ø 5 drill only for a depth of around 5 mm.
The point is to get rid of rivet heads on one single side only.




Expel the rivets with the Ø 5 mm drift punch.




Then you can disassemble the parts. You can see below the destroyed rubbers !




Tap the hub with Ø 6 and thread of 100 by greasing correctly the thread. It is not necessary to drill again the bore because it is already with diameter Ø 5 mm. The tapping must be made form side to side of the hub.
Unburr the beginning of the thread on 2 mm using a drill.




Drill the existing fixation holes on the flanges at the diameter Ø 6.




Drill a cone so that you can later put the countersunk head screws ( with Ø 12 mm drill cut at 90° or 90° mill). Screwheads shall not be fully inserted in the flange, they shall jut out above for half 5/10 mm.




Clean every part then proceed to reassembly of the parts. Verify that the 8 axis are in position, the head being positioned inside.




Respect the marks made during disassembly. Place the flanges making sure that the blocks are centered inside the housing. Place and tighten the screws (10 to 15 Nm) after having put some blue « Loctite » on them. Oil the dampers through the holes with some engine oil.




Now your primary driven sprocket is ready to ensure a perfect work for many miles !
Patrick
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CB 750 K1 - CB 500 K1 - CB 450 K2 - CB 350 K2 - SL125 K1 - Dax ST70 - C50M 1975 - CF50 1967 - CZ100 1965

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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2015, 03:27:44 PM »
Bump - so I can find this again
1971 Honda CB750 Four K1 [Engine: CB750E-1113521 / Frame: CB750-1113838]
1977 Seeley Honda CB750F (F1) [Engine: CB750E-2551214 / Frame No: SH7-655F]

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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2015, 11:39:40 PM »
No problem !

Contact me by email if necessary  :)
Patrick
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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2016, 09:05:45 PM »
Hi,

I want to do this fix too while I am doing a complete engine restoration.
Where do I find these rubbers or that kit? If you made it by syourself,  what type of rubbers do you use?

Thanks, Davy.

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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2016, 11:55:39 PM »
Thanks Davy D for the inquiry, and thanks kmb69 for the right answer !  ;)

These parts are made in France by an important french Automotive industry sub-contractor, they have the same Shore hardness than the original rubbers and are submitted to a serious quality control. We produced more than 100 kits and never had problems with these rubbers !
« Last Edit: November 12, 2016, 04:11:48 AM by Aurelia B20 »
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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2016, 11:09:17 PM »
Thanks all,

I will order these parts in the coming week.

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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2016, 03:44:30 PM »
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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2017, 10:32:14 PM »
We got our shipment. Thanks

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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2017, 07:27:33 AM »
We got our shipment. Thanks

Damn, you guys got yours fast! Mine is still "being prepared for delivery"
All you gotta do is do what you gotta do.

Vintage Speed Parts Mashup: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133638.0
Rickman CR Parts Kit Refresh: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,154837.0.html
AHRMA CB750 Racer: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,158461.0.html
AHRMA Superbike Heavyweight Racer: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,173120.0.html
'76F CB750 Patina Redemption: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,174871.0.html

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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2017, 07:43:18 AM »
Hi Matt, seems that shipping to USA from abroad is longer today than some months ago, due to customs and controls delay ...

Your parcel shipped on 13/02, left France on 14/02, arrived in USA on 20/02, left the export center on 28/02 !!!, arrived in your area on 01/03, waiting for delivery ...  8)

Hope you'll receive it quickly !  ;)

Patrick
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CB 750 K1 - CB 500 K1 - CB 450 K2 - CB 350 K2 - SL125 K1 - Dax ST70 - C50M 1975 - CF50 1967 - CZ100 1965

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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2017, 11:38:31 AM »
Hi Matt, seems that shipping to USA from abroad is longer today than some months ago, due to customs and controls delay ...

Your parcel shipped on 13/02, left France on 14/02, arrived in USA on 20/02, left the export center on 28/02 !!!, arrived in your area on 01/03, waiting for delivery ...  8)

Hope you'll receive it quickly !  ;)

No worries at all Patrick. I am used to waiting for bits from other countries. No biggie.
All you gotta do is do what you gotta do.

Vintage Speed Parts Mashup: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133638.0
Rickman CR Parts Kit Refresh: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,154837.0.html
AHRMA CB750 Racer: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,158461.0.html
AHRMA Superbike Heavyweight Racer: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,173120.0.html
'76F CB750 Patina Redemption: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,174871.0.html

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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2017, 09:25:14 AM »
Time for me to do this repair work.

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Re: CB750 How to change primary rubber dampers
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2020, 09:46:15 AM »
A big big re-Up !  8)

We have updated our rubber dampers, with rounded edges as original parts and better Shore hardness with reduced tolerances compared to our previous production :






These rubbers can be found here http://www.honda60-70s.net/Pieces/pieces.html

Have a good job  8)

Patrick
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CB 750 K1 - CB 500 K1 - CB 450 K2 - CB 350 K2 - SL125 K1 - Dax ST70 - C50M 1975 - CF50 1967 - CZ100 1965