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Offline 750K5

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Engine overhaul kit?
« on: February 01, 2020, 05:43:38 AM »
Good morning,
Does anyone have a suggestion for quality engine seal and gasket kits? I am looking at ordering some parts today and the 4into1.com kit looks reasonably priced and comes with std rings. Is this a decent kit? 
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Re: Engine overhaul kit?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2020, 09:53:38 AM »
No point getting rings till you see what size your bore is and how worn
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Re: Engine overhaul kit?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2020, 03:39:06 PM »
I haven't used their kit for the 750, but their kit for the Cb350 twin was less complete than I would have liked.  I like to use Athena or Vesrah gasket sets.

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Re: Engine overhaul kit?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2020, 07:15:06 PM »
On the less-cost (but adequate) end of things, the CruzinImage piston kits work well. But, like BryanJ mentions: you'd best pull the head and measure the bores before picking pistons. Don't just try to re-ring: this only works on the 750 if the engine has less than 5000 miles on the present rings, and then it only lasts about 10k-15k miles. It will not restore the performance that was lost to the warping of the cylinders as it cured the sleeves, either: to regain that (and more) you must bore it at least a step-size if the bores are virgin size.

None of the current crop of gasket kits are complete. The NE brand has the most parts, but (in my experience) the jury is out over how long these last because they only appeared about 6 years ago. I have used Vesrah for many years with good results, but they, too, are missing the head seals (PartsNmore has the correct ones) and some of the O-rings (you can contact me for those). You can also get a decent shaft seal kit from CB750Supply and PartsNmore, among others out there. Most of these today are being made by the same vendor and are packed with differing names on them, but are the same parts.

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Re: Engine overhaul kit?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2020, 11:05:12 PM »
The lower priced gasket kits have gaskets with poor fitting. Especially valve cover and all side covers. One or two of the holes do not line up and easy to rip the gasket when forcing the screw thru and tighten it. Check before and cut where needed.

I have used Honda light green gaskets since a few years. They fits well and can be reused several times when removing cover and back again.

Valve cover, oil pan and clutch cover have been off several times on my K6 when upgrading or cleaning, restoring pump.

Yamiya's kit is OK.
There are several o-rings that must be ordered separate not included in any gasket kit.
Maybe CycleX has complete kits.

I have used oil seal kits from Cruzinimage and Yamiya.

An engine overhaul kit for a +40 years old bike will cost.
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Re: Engine overhaul kit?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2020, 11:53:19 PM »
basically, what guys are saying here is, at this point in time rebuilding one of these engines is extremely difficult to do up as good as it was from the factory...so if your #$%* is still O.k.?, maybe just leave it alone with slightly lower compression and/or some oil leaks...because if you really don't have a clue, you are gonna ruin it.

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Re: Engine overhaul kit?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2020, 11:54:40 AM »
I am also assembling O-ring kits for the SOHC4 bikes now. This includes the ones missing from the various kits, or undersized in those kits, etc. I should have the first kits available by Spring this year.
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Re: Engine overhaul kit?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2020, 01:57:32 PM »
If you're embarking into the 750 engine, maybe think about my book: it goes step-by-step thru the whole bike and gives all the pertinent numbers and details. It also brings some $ support back to our forum! ;)

I'm thinking of buying a 750 just so I can have an excuse to buy the book...

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Re: Engine overhaul kit?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2020, 06:56:50 PM »
If you're embarking into the 750 engine, maybe think about my book: it goes step-by-step thru the whole bike and gives all the pertinent numbers and details. It also brings some $ support back to our forum! ;)

I'm thinking of buying a 750 just so I can have an excuse to buy the book...

Most folks like it: it's got all the info about the K1-K6, and enough about the others to be useful. I skipped the K0 because it had 6 variants (4 during the sandcast series) and I could not get more than one K0 to show in the pictures. The F0/1/2/3 are variants in their frame equipment (rear disc brakes on most of them) and the F2/3 had valves with different keepers and shorter front cam chain tensioners, while the K7/8 and F2/3 all had PD41 or PD42 series carbs. I didn't cover those carbs in the book. The pistons in the F0/1 and K7/8 are similar, but different from the earlier bikes, and the F2/3 had unique domed pistons. These pistons can be made from the DOHC750 pistons, though, have done that several times, and now CruzinImage is making the special F2/3 piston kits again, too.  So overall, we can still rebuild almost all of them, except the sandcast series, pretty completely. The sandcast are a little trickier...
See SOHC4shop@gmail.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

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