Author Topic: 1970 Dick Mann bike (Read 4618 times)

kerryb · « **on:** March 06, 2020, 03:42:52 PM »

Stopped by the Honda factory tent at Daytona speedway today. After seeing this bike and reading the sign, I asked if it was the real deal...she said "yes, that's the real deal" sign said 1970 cb750 raced by Dick Mann.

...pics in a few minutes...

CR750 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2020, 11:42:24 PM »

It must be... Only Dick Mann could have ridden it upside down to victory.

Fairing is not correct, -exhaust, -shifter...stock forks, cooking the battery

etc. etc...a replica.

turboguzzi · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2020, 01:39:09 AM »

with two bolt fork axle caps.... yes, it must be the real thing

gotta love the safety wiring for the fork drain plug and the green / blue cables from the battery, held with ties on the frame tubes...

gschuld · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2020, 04:17:06 AM »

Yes,

The standard swingarm and Koni shocks aren’t too obvious too.🙄. Looks like Diecast CR carbs too.

Nice looking replica, but far from an authentic Honda Works Racing Type.

George

Stev-o · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2020, 10:04:11 AM »

For those that dont know, Dick Mann won the 1970 Daytona 200 50 years ago on this bike...

Heres a good write up of the qualifying and race...

https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/blogs/dick-manns-1970-daytona-200-victory-mann-machine/

754 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2020, 01:08:42 PM »

Did the Mann bike have thinned fork tubes between the triple trees ?

gschuld · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2020, 02:23:10 PM »

Yes. Reportedly thinned from 36mm OD. Chromed titanium mated to magnesium 4 boo lowers. Those are factory K0 2 bolt aluminum lowers. Kit bike type stuff. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

George

Don R · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2020, 10:26:17 AM »

Honda apparently has no idea that there are people that care or are aware about the correctness of a display. A lot of famous race vehicles morph into the next version multiple times and are eventually lost to us.
I owned an early 60's dragster that went 191mph with a blown gas Chevrolet. (It was written in the paint underneath the latest paint job) I never found the history for sure, The next owner ended up destroying all of the original parts.

kerryb · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2020, 06:51:41 PM »

More pics

754 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2020, 06:55:12 PM »

Those are 71 and 72 fork lowers. Came out mid 71..
Someone is misrepresenting, in Canada we call that bull#$%*ting..

kerryb · « **Reply #10 on:** March 10, 2020, 07:03:14 PM »

I wonder if the genuine bike had rims labeled "spain"?

Tintop · « **Reply #11 on:** March 12, 2020, 05:18:06 AM »

Quote from: kerryb on March 10, 2020, 07:03:14 PM

I wonder if the genuine bike had rims labeled "spain"?

Either that or Italy, as both Akront & Borranni made shouldered rims in period like on the Mann bike.

napoleonb · « **Reply #12 on:** March 12, 2020, 05:44:57 AM »

The kit bikes and all other period Honda racers used DID's as far as I know

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #13 on:** March 12, 2020, 06:25:02 PM »

I'm sorry Kerryb but that is not the Dick Mann bike or one of the other two that raced at Daytona.
It's not even a good replica. Sorry mate.

Sam.

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #14 on:** March 16, 2020, 04:10:37 PM »

It looks like the same bike that HONDA displayed at VMD last July...........The honchos said it has 'some' original race parts on it, but fully disclosed it was a replica for show only. I took careful pics of the oil tank.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #15 on:** March 16, 2020, 04:48:24 PM »

Quote from: Old Scrambler on March 16, 2020, 04:10:37 PM

It looks like the same bike that HONDA displayed at VMD last July...........The honchos said it has 'some' original race parts on it, but fully disclosed it was a replica for show only. I took careful pics of the oil tank.

Dennis, it's not even a close replica.
There are plenty of pics online of the bikes at Daytona to compare it with.
Frame, forks, seat, rear shocks, fairing and exhaust are all different.

Sam.

754 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 16, 2020, 04:51:44 PM »

People speak in glowing terms if their replicas, and second or third hand it get more contorted. So looks pretty much like the original ,soon becomes I thinks it's the original.. the woman you talked to just really does not know , I am thinking.
Nice bike though..

turboguzzi · « **Reply #17 on:** March 16, 2020, 10:24:17 PM »

replica didnt stay there long...
https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/daytona-postponed-until-october-updated/

bwaller · « **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2020, 06:05:05 AM »

I think if there were any of the original Daytona racebikes or parts left, they are buried deep on Oak Island.

Tintop · « **Reply #19 on:** March 17, 2020, 10:51:56 AM »

Quote from: bwaller on March 17, 2020, 06:05:05 AM

I think if there were any of the original Daytona racebikes or parts left, they are buried deep on Oak Island.

They did find some cylindrical objects, might be those missing 4 bolt forks.

NickO · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2020, 11:26:18 AM »

The only way you'll ever end-up with a genuine race bike is if you put it straight into the van after the end of a race.

MRieck · « **Reply #21 on:** March 19, 2020, 12:51:55 PM »

Quote from: NickO on March 19, 2020, 11:26:18 AM

The only way you'll ever end-up with a genuine race bike is if you put it straight into the van after the end of a race.

Gospel right there.

turboguzzi · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2020, 06:22:14 AM »

Quote from: NickO on March 19, 2020, 11:26:18 AM

The only way you'll ever end-up with a genuine race bike is if you put it straight into the van after the end of a race.

thats what i do all the time

albeit in my case it's into my 48ft motorhome

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #23 on:** March 20, 2020, 08:18:18 AM »

Quote from: Old Scrambler on March 16, 2020, 04:10:37 PM

It looks like the same bike that HONDA displayed at VMD last July...........The honchos said it has 'some' original race parts on it, but fully disclosed it was a replica for show only. I took careful pics of the oil tank.

Exactly. I verify this being there at the moment.

bwaller · « **Reply #24 on:** March 20, 2020, 08:56:47 AM »

Holy crap TG, no flies on you!

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Author Topic: 1970 Dick Mann bike (Read 4618 times)