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Offline kerryb

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1970 Dick Mann bike
« on: March 06, 2020, 03:42:52 PM »
Stopped by the Honda factory tent at Daytona speedway today.  After seeing this bike and reading the sign, I asked if it was the real deal...she said "yes, that's the real deal"  sign said 1970 cb750 raced by Dick Mann.

...pics in a few minutes...
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2020, 11:42:24 PM »
It must be... Only Dick Mann could have ridden it upside down to victory. ::)




Fairing is not correct, -exhaust, -shifter...stock forks, cooking the battery  :-* etc. etc...a replica.
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2020, 01:39:09 AM »
with two bolt fork axle caps.... yes, it must be the real thing ;)
gotta love the safety wiring for the fork drain plug and the green / blue cables from the battery,  held with ties on the frame tubes...
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2020, 04:17:06 AM »
Yes,

The standard swingarm and Koni shocks aren’t too obvious too.🙄.  Looks like Diecast CR carbs too.

Nice looking replica, but far from an authentic Honda Works Racing Type.

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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2020, 10:04:11 AM »
For those that dont know, Dick Mann won the 1970 Daytona 200 50 years ago on this bike...




Heres a good write up of the qualifying and race...

https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/blogs/dick-manns-1970-daytona-200-victory-mann-machine/
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2020, 01:08:42 PM »
Did the Mann bike have thinned fork tubes between the triple trees ?
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2020, 02:23:10 PM »
Yes.  Reportedly thinned from 36mm OD.  Chromed titanium mated to magnesium 4 boo lowers.  Those are factory K0 2 bolt aluminum lowers.  Kit bike type stuff.  Not that there is anything wrong with that.

George

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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2020, 10:26:17 AM »
 Honda apparently has no idea that there are people that care or are aware about the correctness of a display. A lot of famous race vehicles morph into the next version multiple times and are eventually lost to us.
 I owned an early 60's dragster that went 191mph with a blown gas Chevrolet. (It was written in the paint underneath the latest paint job) I never found the history for sure, The next owner ended up destroying all of the original parts.
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2020, 06:51:41 PM »
More pics
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2020, 06:55:12 PM »
Those are 71 and 72 fork lowers. Came out  mid 71..
 Someone is misrepresenting, in Canada we call that bull#$%*ting..
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2020, 07:03:14 PM »
I wonder if the genuine bike had rims labeled "spain"?
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2020, 05:18:06 AM »
Quote from: kerryb on March 10, 2020, 07:03:14 PM
I wonder if the genuine bike had rims labeled "spain"?

Either that or Italy, as both Akront & Borranni made shouldered rims in period like on the Mann bike.
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2020, 05:44:57 AM »
The kit bikes and all other period Honda racers used DID's as far as I know
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2020, 06:25:02 PM »
I'm sorry Kerryb but that is not the Dick Mann bike or one of the other two that raced at Daytona.
It's not even a good replica. Sorry mate.

Sam. ;)
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2020, 04:10:37 PM »
It looks like the same bike that HONDA displayed at VMD last July...........The honchos said it has 'some' original race parts on it, but fully disclosed it was a replica for show only. I took careful pics of the oil tank.
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2020, 04:48:24 PM »
Quote from: Old Scrambler on March 16, 2020, 04:10:37 PM
It looks like the same bike that HONDA displayed at VMD last July...........The honchos said it has 'some' original race parts on it, but fully disclosed it was a replica for show only. I took careful pics of the oil tank.

Dennis, it's not even a close replica.
There are plenty of pics online of the bikes at Daytona to compare it with.
Frame, forks, seat, rear shocks, fairing and exhaust are all different.

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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2020, 04:51:44 PM »
People speak in glowing terms if their replicas, and second or third hand it get more contorted.  So looks pretty much like the original ,soon becomes I thinks it's the original..  the woman you talked to just really does not know , I am thinking.
 Nice bike though..
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2020, 06:05:05 AM »
I think if there were any of the original Daytona racebikes or parts left, they are buried deep on Oak Island.  ::)
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2020, 10:51:56 AM »
Quote from: bwaller on March 17, 2020, 06:05:05 AM
I think if there were any of the original Daytona racebikes or parts left, they are buried deep on Oak Island.  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D  ::)

They did find some cylindrical objects, might be those missing 4 bolt forks. ;)
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2020, 11:26:18 AM »
The only way you'll ever end-up with a genuine race bike is if you put it straight into the van after the end of a race.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2020, 12:51:55 PM »
Quote from: NickO on March 19, 2020, 11:26:18 AM
The only way you'll ever end-up with a genuine race bike is if you put it straight into the van after the end of a race.
Gospel right there. ;)
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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2020, 06:22:14 AM »
Quote from: NickO on March 19, 2020, 11:26:18 AM
The only way you'll ever end-up with a genuine race bike is if you put it straight into the van after the end of a race.
thats what i do all the time :)
albeit in my case it's into my 48ft motorhome


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Re: 1970 Dick Mann bike
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2020, 08:18:18 AM »
Quote from: Old Scrambler on March 16, 2020, 04:10:37 PM
It looks like the same bike that HONDA displayed at VMD last July...........The honchos said it has 'some' original race parts on it, but fully disclosed it was a replica for show only. I took careful pics of the oil tank.

Exactly. I verify this being there at the moment.
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2020, 08:56:47 AM »
Holy crap TG, no flies on you! 8)
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