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« Reply #375 on: August 24, 2024, 06:42:06 AM »
Engine back in frame, five bolts in front, two hefty bolts in back.



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« Reply #377 on: August 24, 2024, 07:46:11 AM »
What's the purpose of those knobs in the slot on left side of cylinders?  Is that push rods?

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« Reply #378 on: August 24, 2024, 07:59:38 AM »
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What's the purpose of those knobs in the slot on left side of cylinders?  Is that push rods?
Push rod ball and socket.

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« Reply #379 on: August 28, 2024, 07:39:07 AM »
Made tools to press gears.



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« Reply #380 on: August 28, 2024, 08:41:16 AM »
Ingenuity, the mother of invention...
Start with the end in mind...

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« Reply #381 on: August 28, 2024, 08:56:42 AM »
Slick!

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« Reply #382 on: August 28, 2024, 09:26:44 AM »
Is the whole thing run off of two pushrods?
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« Reply #383 on: August 29, 2024, 04:42:57 AM »
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Is the whole thing run off of two pushrods?
Eight pushrods, eight rocker arms.
Two pushrods in photo are used to set cam timing.
There is a hole in the cam gear but no mark on case, may be up, down, left, right, not sure yet, photos coming.

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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #384 on: August 29, 2024, 04:48:04 AM »
Honda cam pucks .110"
Yamiya cam pucks .114"



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« Reply #385 on: August 29, 2024, 05:22:38 AM »
I just rec’d a Yamiya full gasket set. Are those pucks from a recent set?

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« Reply #386 on: August 29, 2024, 01:42:03 PM »
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I just received a Yamiya full gasket set. Are those pucks from a recent set?
July 2023
Yamiya makes very nice parts.
Wanted to check cause reports of bad pucks.

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« Reply #387 on: August 29, 2024, 06:34:33 PM »
Measured most recentl purchase (arrived last week). Same as yours. I use their stuff and it’s all excellent.

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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #388 on: September 04, 2024, 09:48:01 AM »
There is an oil seal between engine and primary case.
Oil seals are being made, ready in 30 to 60 days.
Made a spacer to close the gap from .135" to .003"
First part I could not get.




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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #389 on: September 04, 2024, 07:45:16 PM »
Engine back in frame, five bolts in front, two hefty bolts in back.




Looking at the massive amount of aluminum in that block makes it easier to understand why those ran so hot(!). It must be hard for the air to do its job with that shape.
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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #390 on: September 04, 2024, 09:14:57 PM »
Engine back in frame, five bolts in front, two hefty bolts in back.




Looking at the massive amount of aluminum in that block makes it easier to understand why those ran so hot(!). It must be hard for the air to do its job with that shape.
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Folks..
The Square Fours were notorious for overheating..especially in hot weather and ridden for long distances.  I wrangled with that problem for several years..when I had my '58 Mark II which was supposed to be 'state-of-the-art' for Ariel Square Fours.  As you can all probably appreciate..it is very difficult to air-cool the two rear cylinders when the hot air from the front cylinders is essentially blowing directly back on the rear two.

Some of the remedies we had back in the late 50's..early 60's..were to: simply stop and let the engine cool down a bit..the go on with your ride
[an obviously impractical drag LOL]. Another popular remedy @ the time was to paint the cylinders black [rather than leaving them the natural aluminum color] which was reportedly more effective in dissipating the heat from the entire cylinder block.  I didn't ever try that remedy myself..but reportedly it worked well enough @ keeping the two rear cylinders cool enough..so that it wasn't necessary to stop due to overheating.

And lastly here..I just wanted to say that it wasn't always necessary to stop to let the engine cool..which depended largely on the ambient temperature outside..on the days you were riding.  I lived in So. Cal @ the time..and the summers' could get pretty hot [103-110F].  If it were me today..I'd probably paint the cylinders black..

Hope this was helpful  Ichi

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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #391 on: September 06, 2024, 05:20:45 AM »
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Looking at the massive amount of aluminum in that block makes it easier to understand why those ran so hot(!). It must be hard for the air to do its job with that shape.
Mark,
The outside fins are larger then CB750
The tunnel through the center is bigger then CB750
Air flow and fin size determine cooling.
These may run cooler then CB750.
Will post numbers when I have them.

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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #392 on: September 06, 2024, 06:38:42 AM »
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Looking at the massive amount of aluminum in that block makes it easier to understand why those ran so hot(!). It must be hard for the air to do its job with that shape.
Mark,
The outside fins are larger then CB750
The tunnel through the center is bigger then CB750
Air flow and fin size determine cooling.
These may run cooler then CB750.
Will post numbers when I have them.
Can you add an oil cooler to it?
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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #393 on: September 11, 2024, 05:12:39 AM »
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Can you add an oil cooler to it?
It doesn't need one.

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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #394 on: September 11, 2024, 05:15:05 AM »
Top left dynamo and distributor
Top right camshaft
Crankshaft center bottom
Two pumps, engine feed, return to tank, same as CB750



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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #395 on: September 18, 2024, 09:39:41 AM »
Primary drive and clutch



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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #396 on: September 19, 2024, 12:24:43 PM »
Top left dynamo and distributor
Top right camshaft
Crankshaft center bottom
Two pumps, engine feed, return to tank, same as CB750



The two pumps:are they both the side-to-side small cylinders on the camshaft sprocket ?
Do they have an elliptic type of drive on the camshaft sprocket ?

Will this engine employ a kickstart also ?
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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #397 on: September 19, 2024, 05:53:26 PM »
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The two pumps, are they both the side-to-side small cylinders on the camshaft sprocket ?
Yes

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Do they have an elliptic type of drive on the camshaft sprocket ?
There is an offset pin on the camshaft nut that drives the pumps.

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Will this engine employ a kickstart also ?
Kickstart only, no electric.

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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #398 on: September 21, 2024, 10:15:28 AM »
Toyo points plate
Most CB750's came with Toyo points plate (a few came with Hitachi)
Plate stamped Tec
Top slot longer then bottom slots



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Re: Oh dear ...
« Reply #399 on: September 21, 2024, 10:20:56 AM »
Hitachi points plate
Some CB750's came with Hitachi plate
Plate and points have Hitachi emblem
All slots same size
Condensers have something like wax where wires come out