Topic: How has your life changed?

[Terry in Australia]

Very true Scott stupid people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor........

[bear]

Very true Scott stupid people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor........

I think it's called the Dunning/Kruger effect.

[Terry in Australia]

Very true Scott stupid people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor........

I think it's called the Dunning/Kruger effect.

Wow, I've learned something Brian, where the hell did you find that? But good to know that Messrs Kruger and Dunning are alive and well......

[jlh3rd]

My mom told me today about an under-reporting of test results in CA of 250,000-300,000 reports, due to a computer snafu. My home town is now the "hot-spot" of Santa Barbara county, due in large part to migrant farm workers who live in tightly packed conditions, like 3 families in a two bedroom apartment; it's the only way they can afford housing, even with "sanctuary city" assistance.
The infection rate in AZ is about half what it was at the peak, so the masks and distancing work, period. 390 people died in AZ from 8-1 through 8-8, and last week they did have to resort to temporary refrigeration units to store bodies, as the funeral homes are overwhelmed.

lol....so anecdotal evidence from you gets applauded.....actual, medical , reports from my family members  are " tuned" out......bias much?

[jlh3rd]

Yep the under reporting, and that idiot telling us that if you slow down testing you’ll have less positive cases is skewing the numbers, making it look better than it actually is. I was watching a news program where illegal mexican workers in the US were still going to work even though they knew they had CV, as they weren’t entitled to welfare payments. It is a truly fcuked up situation.

those illegals should be thrown out and never should have been allowed in our country in the first place....which that "idiot" intends to put a stop to. Funny how someone that would have stopped the very problem you mentioned is called an idiot.
Furthermore, they deserve NO money.
Funny,isn't it, that YOUR country doesn't seem to have an illegal problem.....hmmm wonder why?... buddy

your right though, some people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor......

[jlh3rd]

and it's not under reporting that's a problem....it's over reporting.....

[jlh3rd]

It's always evident when someone has no facts in an argument to resort to name calling as their defense, because that's all they have. That's the true definition of being an "idiot".

[jlh3rd]

I can't wait for barber...hope they don't cancel it.

[jlh3rd]

from the vaunted WHO organization...so worshipped on here....

[PeWe]

More deaths than the drug lords south of USA do ....

[Terry in Australia]

Yep the under reporting, and that idiot telling us that if you slow down testing you’ll have less positive cases is skewing the numbers, making it look better than it actually is. I was watching a news program where illegal mexican workers in the US were still going to work even though they knew they had CV, as they weren’t entitled to welfare payments. It is a truly fcuked up situation.

those illegals should be thrown out and never should have been allowed in our country in the first place....which that "idiot" intends to put a stop to. Funny how someone that would have stopped the very problem you mentioned is called an idiot.
Furthermore, they deserve NO money.
Funny,isn't it, that YOUR country doesn't seem to have an illegal problem.....hmmm wonder why?... buddy

your right though, some people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor......

I'm not your buddy, and that moron is responsible for his blind devotees, like you, playing down this catastrophe, pretending that 1000 deaths a day "is what it is", and spreading it in huge numbers. If you can read a map, or know someone who can, you'll see why we don't have an "illegal" problem, because we have a sea border, and anyone trying to get here by boat gets picked up by the navy and put in a detention centre offshore.   

[PeWe]

Great whites take care of illegal swimmers!

[jlh3rd]

Yep the under reporting, and that idiot telling us that if you slow down testing you’ll have less positive cases is skewing the numbers, making it look better than it actually is. I was watching a news program where illegal mexican workers in the US were still going to work even though they knew they had CV, as they weren’t entitled to welfare payments. It is a truly fcuked up situation.

those illegals should be thrown out and never should have been allowed in our country in the first place....which that "idiot" intends to put a stop to. Funny how someone that would have stopped the very problem you mentioned is called an idiot.
Furthermore, they deserve NO money.
Funny,isn't it, that YOUR country doesn't seem to have an illegal problem.....hmmm wonder why?... buddy

your right though, some people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor......

I'm not your buddy, and that moron is responsible for his blind devotees, like you, playing down this catastrophe, pretending that 1000 deaths a day "is what it is", and spreading it in huge numbers. If you can read a map, or know someone who can, you'll see why we don't have an "illegal" problem, because we have a sea border, and anyone trying to get here by boat gets picked up by the navy and put in a detention centre offshore.   

lol....exactly...which is precisely ,in essence, what the " moron " wants to do !......you keep embarrassing yourself...
It is what it is! What else is it! ....in our government, unlike yours, we don't have a dictator elected by in house elites, states rights mostly prevail....so it's THEIR choice.....study up....that's why we still have a second amendment.....
.....there was hospital ship sent to New York......that was hardly used or needed!so it was sent back! Who had the ship sent?...look it up....
.....you don't have anything to offer other than insults and name calling....spare me....

[jlh3rd]

oh...my girlfriend/life partner/ significant other just informed me that her best friend, who started a new job last week, has said that the co-worker that was training her was told to go home the other day because the husband of the co- worker had wuhan virus symptoms......
      I'll just "tune" that out right?.....cause it just anecdotal....

[jlh3rd]

Yep the under reporting, and that idiot telling us that if you slow down testing you’ll have less positive cases is skewing the numbers, making it look better than it actually is. I was watching a news program where illegal mexican workers in the US were still going to work even though they knew they had CV, as they weren’t entitled to welfare payments. It is a truly fcuked up situation.

those illegals should be thrown out and never should have been allowed in our country in the first place....which that "idiot" intends to put a stop to. Funny how someone that would have stopped the very problem you mentioned is called an idiot.
Furthermore, they deserve NO money.
Funny,isn't it, that YOUR country doesn't seem to have an illegal problem.....hmmm wonder why?... buddy

your right though, some people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor......

I'm not your buddy, and that moron is responsible for his blind devotees, like you, playing down this catastrophe, pretending that 1000 deaths a day "is what it is", and spreading it in huge numbers. If you can read a map, or know someone who can, you'll see why we don't have an "illegal" problem, because we have a sea border, and anyone trying to get here by boat gets picked up by the navy and put in a detention centre offshore.   

lovely country you have......pot calling kettle?....hypocrisy much?

[Scott S]

 I think we'll take a little break and let heads cool down.

 This thread will be unlocked in a day or two. Maybe by then we won't call each other names and can discuss this without breaking the NO POLITICS rule.

[Scott S]

 Unlocked.
 Think before you post, please.

[PeWe]

It is also possible to edit your own post if written when upset or just have written "the truth".

I'm sure there are people or organisations that can close the entire site if content is "wrong".

[carnivorous chicken]

A few numbers from everyone's least favorite downer...

There are currently 167,000 confirmed dead in the USA from C19. That's one out every 2000 people.

There are currently 5 million people who have been confirmed infected with Covid. That's one out of every 66 people.

A couple weeks ago, the CDC issued a report based on antibody testing that said the number of people infected could be as high as ten times the confirmed amount. That's one out of every 7 people. Not likely, I imagine, although with the variation of infection rates in different areas, it's not hard to believe it might be that bad in some places.

A sheriff in Marion County Florida has banned his officers from wearing masks, and banned visitors to the sheriff's office from wearing masks, while both Marion County and Florida are setting records for infections and deaths.

Meanwhile in New Zealand, a country that successfully shut down the country, had reopened, and had 102 straight days without an infection, they discovered 4 new infections in a single family and immediately reintroduced a lockdown for a few days in Auckland and reintroduced social distancing in other major cities.

With a population of 5 million, that's one death per 250,000 people -- just for comparison. Although there has been some grumbling there, there is not the kind of anti-science, anti-mask movement that can be seen in some other countries. I imagine Kiwis are justifiably proud of the way they and their government have handled this.

[carnivorous chicken]

And because misery loves company (and to return to the topic of schools):

A school in Georgia reopened, and one day later parents were sent a letter that a child was infected with C19. Ten schools in the county immediately closed, and 900 people have been ordered to quarantine. This is what local response looks like, so I am guessing people who want schools to open will say it's a good response. Those that don't would likely say, "what did you think was going to happen?" With such high known rates of infection, why anyone thinks reopening schools isn't going to lead to more infections is beyond me. Even if they catch it quickly, how many kids or teachers were exposed in just that one day from that one kid?

[PeWe]

Interesting to keep the reference of deaths by "normal" flus and other sickness killing people every year.

How many dies today when they do not visit the hospitals when feeling very ill since they are horrified getting Covid-19 at the hospital?

[carnivorous chicken]

How many dies today when they do not visit the hospitals when feeling very ill since they are horrified getting Covid-19 at the hospital?

This is a serious problem here in Mexico, especially here in Mexico City. People have a fear of hospitals, based on old conspiracies and new ones specifically about Covid -- "If you come to the hospital for something, they will inject you with Covid as an experiment," "There is a quota of people who need to die and this is one way they do it," etc. The end result is that the death rate in hospitals from Covid is 40% or so, but this is mainly because people only bring their relatives in when they are so close to death there is no other alternative... and then they die in the hospital, increasing the death rate, further fueling the conspiracy that, "when you bring someone to a hospital for Covid, they die."

The administration here has been pretty miserable, and Mexico ranks third in infections -- although the true extent of the number of infected and the death toll are unknown.

[PeWe]

We have had hospitals where many of the staff were infected spreading it to the patients.
And other infected patients spreading the virus. All not intentionally.

[Bailgang]

Holy smokes, just got the bill today for the covid test I had a few weeks ago. $300

[jlh3rd]

New Zealand would be an apples to oranges comparison. It's a small, island nation of 4.8 million people with a density of 46 people/ sq. mile. 22 deaths
     The continental U.S. is, obviously , not small and certainly not an island with a population of 306,675,008 (2010 census) with a density of 103 people/per sq. mile. More than double New Zealand. Not a fair comparison.

So, lets look at Hawaii, which is an " island" nation..It's not, but humor me.... Certainly more comparable to New Zealand. They work out to 124 people/ sq. mile. Really packed in there. Almost 3 times the density of New Zealand. Hawaii has 35 deaths.  What's that telling us?
    How about this, that hawaii has .28 deaths per people per sq mile compared to New Zealand's .47 deaths . .or 28 to 47 per 100 sq. miles.....
     I don't think New Zealand did all that great....