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Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #75 on: July 05, 2020, 02:22:35 AM »
It’s running folks!
Now I’ll have to connect charging from regulator and do some checks. None of that rattling noise is there anymore.


The idle sounds So Smooth and balanced !
Thanks! I’ve spent quite some time on jetting. Followed a good guide. Start with idle adjustment and slow speed jets. Then midrange and last 3/4 to full throttle. Maby dyna ignition helps?

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #76 on: July 05, 2020, 04:39:53 AM »
Yeah sounds great! Glad you’re getting the jetting going but normally you want to go mixture screws for idle, main jet, and then work your way down from there. If you go right up the line - mixture screw, slow jet, needle, main - then once you change the main that will alter the ones below it. Main jet affects everything from about 1/4 throttle up. But either way you do it you’ll learn something, haha

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #77 on: July 05, 2020, 06:46:10 AM »
Yeah sounds great! Glad you’re getting the jetting going but normally you want to go mixture screws for idle, main jet, and then work your way down from there. If you go right up the line - mixture screw, slow jet, needle, main - then once you change the main that will alter the ones below it. Main jet affects everything from about 1/4 throttle up. But either way you do it you’ll learn something, haha
Well guess I’ll have to redo jetting a bit then.. everything is wired now. To bad we got weather similar to a monsoon now. Does not work well without rear fender. HAHA

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #78 on: July 05, 2020, 09:49:09 AM »

A small test outside our house. Soon roads are dry.

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #79 on: July 05, 2020, 02:06:23 PM »
Sounds smooth. Enjoy the riding weather!
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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #80 on: July 13, 2020, 10:45:28 AM »
Checked the voltage today. Stable 14.4V at high idle. Have to do some measurment while driving. If it is 14.4 all the time it should be safe for lithium battery?

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #81 on: July 14, 2020, 04:39:50 AM »
My shorai’s max is 15.2 but any lithium battery you get will say what the voltage requirements are. I’d bet you’d be fine. Look on their websites though and it will say.

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #82 on: July 14, 2020, 08:38:18 AM »
14.4 should be okay but like Dave suggested, check the battery specs. You have the correct type of reg/rect.

On the flip side, make sure to check your battery especially if you take a long break in riding (or storage). If the voltage drops to a certain threshold, it will not recharge.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #83 on: July 14, 2020, 09:53:56 PM »
Checked the voltage today. Stable 14.4V at high idle. Have to do some measurment while driving. If it is 14.4 all the time it should be safe for lithium battery?
Yes, 14.4V is optimum for LiFePo batteries.
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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2020, 11:13:10 AM »
Checked the voltage today. Stable 14.4V at high idle. Have to do some measurment while driving. If it is 14.4 all the time it should be safe for lithium battery?
Yes, 14.4V is optimum for LiFePo batteries.

Thanks for chiming in Scottly.  It's been a while since I ran one.
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #85 on: September 04, 2020, 09:46:53 AM »
Nominated for BOTM. Can I get a "second"?  IF so, please do it in the nomination thread:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180400.0.html
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #86 on: September 09, 2020, 01:55:44 PM »
Nominated for BOTM. Can I get a "second"?  IF so, please do it in the nomination thread:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180400.0.html
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« Reply #87 on: September 10, 2020, 04:29:32 AM »
Nominated for BOTM. Can I get a "second"?  IF so, please do it in the nomination thread:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180400.0.html

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2020, 07:58:35 AM »
What did you come up with for a taper angle on the two parts?  I went with a CBR600RR rotor because it is much thinner than the VFR one and thinking since it was a honda they would be the same but the rotor angle was a little larger than the crank taper.

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #89 on: November 26, 2020, 07:12:18 AM »
What did you come up with for a taper angle on the two parts?  I went with a CBR600RR rotor because it is much thinner than the VFR one and thinking since it was a honda they would be the same but the rotor angle was a little larger than the crank taper.
I measured it to 5 degrees. But I used a micrometer on my lathe to adjust the taper. Of I would do it again I would go with a cbr rotor. There is very limited space worh the vfr one.

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #90 on: May 22, 2021, 09:54:45 AM »
Some minor stuff has been done. Got my hands on some fine cb650 custom forks. My old one was leaking. Will shorten them later. Bought emulators from Mikes XS.




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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #91 on: May 22, 2021, 10:25:43 AM »
Bought emulators from Mikes XS.

Your 650 looks great! 👍

Do the emulators make a noticeable difference and in what way?

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #92 on: May 24, 2021, 10:34:23 AM »
Bought emulators from Mikes XS.

Your 650 looks great!

Do the emulators make a noticeable difference and in what way?

/Jim
Thanks!
Fork feels a bit mote smooth now. I have not adjusted the emulators and all I hade in my garage was 10W for oil. 15W is recommended.


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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #93 on: June 07, 2021, 06:27:48 AM »
Got some shiny bits today. 18” front and rear. I alteady have a 550 rear hub and in the mail there is a cb750 front hub.


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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #94 on: June 07, 2021, 02:35:00 PM »
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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2021, 02:46:53 AM »
Got some shiny bits today. 18” front and rear. I alteady have a 550 rear hub and in the mail there is a cb750 front hub.


Looks nice!

That will be very interesteing to see, how a 650 will look with spokes. I bet it will be super!  8)

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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #96 on: June 10, 2021, 10:09:32 AM »
Got some shiny bits today. 18” front and rear. I alteady have a 550 rear hub and in the mail there is a cb750 front hub.


Looks nice!

That will be very interesteing to see, how a 650 will look with spokes. I bet it will be super!  8)

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I hope so! Will take some time since I got my hands on an incomplete hub. Have to make a few collars, and I’m tripple checking all measurments for the spokes.


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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #97 on: July 20, 2021, 10:36:57 PM »
dkihlgren,How are your spoke wheels:coming along?  :)
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« Reply #98 on: July 23, 2021, 01:10:05 AM »
dkihlgren,How are your spoke wheels:coming along?  :)
Waiting for parts. Ordered spokes and they were to long. Waiting for a thread rolling head. Shipping is slow these covid-days.


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Re: Cb650 Cafe racer
« Reply #99 on: November 25, 2021, 12:34:42 AM »
Rear wheel in the making. Also bought CBR600RR throttle bodies..Think it will be fun to build a CB650i with a speeduino.






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