Topic: Just read this on the Cyclex website

[MRieck]

http://www.cyclexchange.net/Fact%20or%20Fiction.htm

[calj737]

Nothing better than facts to disprove opinions.

[MRieck]

I found it very interesting.....I didn't know anybody did "bronze liners." Why??  New guides?

[seanbarney41]

He posts a lot of wtf? these days.  But then his ignition is a fine little device indeed, even if he didn't design it, he still builds em and sells em for $80.  And before you get all know it all, I would like to read your book about cb750's.

[scottly]

Thin wall bronze guides were an up-scale repair for worn integral guides in cast iron car heads. The quick-and-dirty repair was to knurl the guides, which was good for about 50 miles.

[MRieck]

Thin wall bronze guides were an up-scale repair for worn integral guides in cast iron car heads. The quick-and-dirty repair was to knurl the guides, which was good for about 50 miles.

Just to clarify......I know what bronze liners were/are....I am in my 60's.

[scottly]

Thin wall bronze guides were an up-scale repair for worn integral guides in cast iron car heads. The quick-and-dirty repair was to knurl the guides, which was good for about 50 miles.

Just to clarify......I know what bronze liners were/are....I am in my 60's.

My point was that the liners were not, as Kenny claimed, a "poor man's repair".

[bryanj]

In my opinion liners are a perfectly good repair for an old, heavy, big and low reving engine but not lightweight high reving bike engine.
And personaly i respect Marks views and measurements

[PeWe]

Liners available here too.
I thought that was for old cars were guides are not to be found for.

About MLS head gasket.
- Are the 2 o-rings  really a must? The gasket has a sealing area around the holes.

I used them just for sure. Stock Honda size.

[bryanj]

Dont know about mls, they dont fit in with my luddite tendancies!!!
I have got some solid copper for my 500 though, must be OK brit bikes used them from the 1900's!!!!

[DaveBarbier]

Liners available here too.
I thought that was for old cars were guides are not to be found for.
Not for higher revving engines, right?

About MLS head gasket.
- Are the 2 o-rings  really a must? The gasket has a sealing area around the holes.

I used them just for sure. Stock Honda size.

No, not a must. The MLS gasket is designed to not use them since it has embossing on it. My motor is dry as a bone. Recommendations from Mr. Rieck and Buzz from Dynoman. Theoretically it couldn’t hurt to put the o-rings in but you don’t want it to squish so much that it blocks the oil passage.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

And Kenny would/has verify the o-rings are not necessary. Glad to see his perspective on his business.