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Re: K8 Engine Damage - cam shaft sprocket in pieces
« Reply #150 on: September 29, 2020, 06:10:19 PM »
Glad this has a happy ending!
I was also very lucky when this happened to me in the eighties - I pulled an allnighter on my 400-4, I think just to replace the primary chain. I was so impatient to finish that I accidently left the two M7 sprocket bolts only finger tight! I started it up at the crack of dawn and went for a test ride around the block but didn't make it very far - some alarming noises started and seconds later the engine stopped dead and wouldn't turn. I pushed it home and took the cylinder cover off to find the cam chain draped over the camshaft with no sprocket anywhere to be seen! It was down the camchain tunnel in many pieces.
I had to pull the engine completely apart again to clean out all the pieces and this time put new camchain guides & tensioner, new camchain, new sprocket obviously, new rings and I made sure I tightened the retrieved sprocket bolts properly with loctite! I thankfully didn't have to do the valves - it was only idleing when it stopped dead so I think the crankshaft and camshaft stopped turning almost simultaniously.
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Re: K8 Engine Damage - cam shaft sprocket in pieces
« Reply #151 on: September 30, 2020, 01:12:14 AM »
So, 12mm wide is bad? But 9mm wide is good, right? I think someone said to use clamps, the European style of solid band clamps and not perforated, that are no more than 10mm wide.
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Re: K8 Engine Damage - cam shaft sprocket in pieces
« Reply #152 on: September 30, 2020, 07:54:30 AM »
That's a good story Jonda500. I bought my bike as "ran when parked, doesn't need much" and since you can't check much with the engine in the frame on the 750 I just rode it....which resulted in a thread with 150 posts!
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Re: K8 Engine Damage - cam shaft sprocket in pieces
« Reply #153 on: September 30, 2020, 10:35:28 AM »
12mm is what is on now, before 9mm.
Rubber very soft, clamp sinks in.  I think wider is better, less risk  they sink inwards. Clamp over the entire area.
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Re: K8 Engine Damage - cam shaft sprocket in pieces
« Reply #154 on: October 19, 2020, 01:27:41 PM »
My bike won second place at the virtual Harvest Classic in Luckenbach (Texas), which is a pretty well known antique bike event around here  ;D
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Re: K8 Engine Damage - cam shaft sprocket in pieces
« Reply #155 on: October 19, 2020, 01:46:53 PM »
Well done, rebuilt complete now just the uncomfortable driving!!
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Re: K8 Engine Damage - cam shaft sprocket in pieces
« Reply #156 on: October 19, 2020, 02:16:56 PM »
I bought clip-ons with a 1-inch rise, will pad the seat some more and also install the original airbox for a tamer throttle response. It’s a fun ride as is but not for more than 30 mls!
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Re: K8 Engine Damage - cam shaft sprocket in pieces
« Reply #157 on: October 19, 2020, 10:52:14 PM »
I like 250km rides on nice country roads.
Time for another build for longer rides?
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The billet block build thread
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CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
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K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
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Re: K8 Engine Damage - cam shaft sprocket in pieces
« Reply #158 on: October 20, 2020, 05:13:36 AM »
PeWe for those 250 km rides (or the equivalent in mls) I still have my Stock R 75/5 and for the really long rides I take the GS. But I don‘t want to count out another stock build in the future!
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Re: K8 Engine Damage - cam shaft sprocket in pieces
« Reply #159 on: October 20, 2020, 07:51:59 AM »
Always good with more than one bike!
A stock CB750 is never wrong. Or almost stock. Some old parts cost some.
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967