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« on: August 09, 2020, 07:33:47 PM »
Hi folks..
Check out this recent interview w/Governor of S.D. on upcoming Sturgis rally..
Don't think it will be that problematic
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2020, 08:01:14 PM »
I wonder how many of those people will get sick, and how many people they will pass it on to? We may find out in 3-4 weeks. :(
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2020, 10:33:35 PM »
I should have posted this here, too. ;)
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2020, 09:19:35 AM »
Perhaps being 46th out of 50 states for population density plays a role? Or are South Dakota residents just smarter than the rest of us? Or is it the ~$800 Million The Rally generates that is influencing the decision?

I didn't know it was a left/right issue, I thought it was a pandemic.

This definition is from the World Health Organization so personal politics may supercede its accuracy:

"A pandemic is defined as “an epidemic occurring worldwide, or over a very wide area, crossing international boundaries and usually affecting a large number of people”. The classical definition includes nothing about population immunity, virology or disease severity."

I don't believe anyone's personal freedom should include the right to behavior that can put others at risk. =  opinion.

There will always be discussion on every side of every issue. = fact.

Facts are stubborn things.

Please excuse me if I've moved anyone to reply, I don't mean to get into a discussion one way or another.

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2020, 09:38:33 AM »
I should Mention I have been to the rally many times, and its easy to keep coming back..
 Like they said they did not necessarily want to hold the Rally, rather they HAD TO BE prepared , should thousands show up anyway, which they did..
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2020, 10:15:24 AM »
It's ignoring reality to think that there won't be a spread from Sturgis. Herman Cain died a couple weeks after Tulsa, and there was a huge spike in cases there. I predict the same, although it will be harder to track as all of the mask-averse knuckleheads are just gonna head back to where they came from and spread it around there. 250,000 mostly maskless people convening in one spot in close proximity during a pandemic. Special kinda person to do that.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2020, 10:40:57 AM »
no, it wasn't ben carson, it was herman kain. I believe he had health issues for a while, and was diabetic......

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2020, 10:51:29 AM »
no, it wasn't ben carson, it was herman kain. I believe he had health issues for a while, and was diabetic......


Right you are, brain wasn't fully engaged. Cain died of Covid, however, most likely caught in Tulsa -- a rally where he flaunted wearing a mask. He may have had other health issues, but he contracted Covid and died shortly thereafter.

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2020, 11:21:39 AM »
i know, he was a good guy....sad.

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2020, 06:21:06 PM »
I believe that Herman Cain died WITH covid, not from. Also his health issues were much more than " just diabetes " .  That was the way that I heard it.
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2020, 07:53:13 PM »
I believe that Herman Cain died WITH covid, not from. Also his health issues were much more than " just diabetes " .  That was the way that I heard it.

Actually the official cause of death was listed as Covid. Cue the conspiracy theories about over reporting, "a guy got hit by a bus crossing the street and my friend's cousin's aunt's chiropractor said the hospital marked it as Covid," etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum. Nobody will ever know for 100% certain if Covid killed him off, but we can be sure he caught Covid and died a couple weeks later.

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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2020, 07:54:49 PM »
Herman Caine did not contract it at Tulsa rally either! False news Chicken. There was an event he attended the week before he came down with it that is suspected of being the source as others also developed COVID 19 afterwards.
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2020, 08:05:55 PM »
Herman Caine did not contract it at Tulsa rally either! False news Chicken. There was an event he attended the week before he came down with it that is suspected of being the source as others also developed COVID 19 afterwards.

Oh, so he had it at Tulsa and is potentially responsible for passing it to other people? I mean, there was a documented spike in cases after the rally, according to Bruce Dart, the Director of the Tulsa Health Department. That's not "false news." That's even better though, amiright? There are pictures of him at Tulsa without a mask, mingling closely with people. The current administration, by the way, is the entity responsible for the vehement denial of him contracting it at Tulsa. That is also not "false news." Hmm, now why would the administration want to deny that he caught the virus at the rally? Hmm.

This isn't rocket science, guys. Trust the pundits or trust the medical professionals.

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2020, 10:43:48 PM »
Herman Caine did not contract it at Tulsa rally either! False news Chicken. There was an event he attended the week before he came down with it that is suspected of being the source as others also developed COVID 19 afterwards.

Oh, so he had it at Tulsa and is potentially responsible for passing it to other people? I mean, there was a documented spike in cases after the rally, according to Bruce Dart, the Director of the Tulsa Health Department. That's not "false news." That's even better though, amiright? There are pictures of him at Tulsa without a mask, mingling closely with people. The current administration, by the way, is the entity responsible for the vehement denial of him contracting it at Tulsa. That is also not "false news." Hmm, now why would the administration want to deny that he caught the virus at the rally? Hmm.

This isn't rocket science, guys. Trust the pundits or trust the medical professionals.
You either don't read or choose to pick what and how you want to reply to spin it. He picked it up after the Tulsa rally as I stated. You want this thread locked like the other apparently..

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2020, 10:52:14 PM »
David, you stated it was an event the week before he came down with it, which led me to think it was before the Tulsa rally? When and where was the event where the suspected infection occurred?
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2020, 03:33:57 AM »
From Herman Caine's Facebook feed from some of his close friends who worked for him...They feel it was in the extensive aircraft travel or a stop in Vegas taken a week or so before he came down with the symptoms of the virus. As stated here:

"Now, a lot of people have mentioned that he was photographed at the Tulsa Trump rally without a mask on. That’s true. And from that, a lot of people have claimed it’s an established fact that this is where he contracted the virus. As we’ve discussed before, we don’t know where he contracted, but we do know that he traveled extensively in the week he was diagnosed. He was on planes going between several cities.

It’s not impossible he contracted it at the Tulsa rally. But most of us on his team tend to think it happened on one of the plane trips, or possibly during his stop in Las Vegas. That’s for several reasons, one of which is simply the inherent (and to me at least, obvious) risk involved with being on an airplane these days. Another is the fact that, for all the attention on Herman contracting the virus, we haven’t heard of a major outbreak of Tulsa rally participants who came down with it.

This tweet – of Herman sitting with other members of Black Voices for Trump – has been passed around a lot since Herman was diagnosed, and especially yesterday after the news of his passing:

It supposedly is evidence that his condition was “preventable,” and to some people – astonishingly – that he deserved to die.

Have any of the other people pictured in this photo come down with the virus? If so, I’m not aware of it. Herman’s diagnosis attracted a fair amount of attention because he was pretty high-profile. But it’s not very likely you got the virus as a result of attending a rally, if you were the only one there who had it or got it.

But even if he did get the virus in Tulsa – and I’m not saying it’s impossible, just not as certain as a lot of other people seem to think it is – that doesn’t mean he was a COVID denier or that he claimed it was a hoax."
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2020, 04:04:57 AM »
From Herman Caine's Facebook feed from some of his close friends who worked for him...They feel it was in the extensive aircraft travel or a stop in Vegas taken a week or so before he came down with the symptoms of the virus. As stated here:

"Now, a lot of people have mentioned that he was photographed at the Tulsa Trump rally without a mask on. That’s true. And from that, a lot of people have claimed it’s an established fact that this is where he contracted the virus. As we’ve discussed before, we don’t know where he contracted, but we do know that he traveled extensively in the week he was diagnosed. He was on planes going between several cities.

It’s not impossible he contracted it at the Tulsa rally. But most of us on his team tend to think it happened on one of the plane trips, or possibly during his stop in Las Vegas. That’s for several reasons, one of which is simply the inherent (and to me at least, obvious) risk involved with being on an airplane these days. Another is the fact that, for all the attention on Herman contracting the virus, we haven’t heard of a major outbreak of Tulsa rally participants who came down with it.

This tweet – of Herman sitting with other members of Black Voices for Trump – has been passed around a lot since Herman was diagnosed, and especially yesterday after the news of his passing:

It supposedly is evidence that his condition was “preventable,” and to some people – astonishingly – that he deserved to die.

Have any of the other people pictured in this photo come down with the virus? If so, I’m not aware of it. Herman’s diagnosis attracted a fair amount of attention because he was pretty high-profile. But it’s not very likely you got the virus as a result of attending a rally, if you were the only one there who had it or got it.

But even if he did get the virus in Tulsa – and I’m not saying it’s impossible, just not as certain as a lot of other people seem to think it is – that doesn’t mean he was a COVID denier or that he claimed it was a hoax."

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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2020, 06:38:35 AM »
RAF122S: Just a recap of two of your previous three posts:

Herman Caine did not contract it at Tulsa rally either! False news Chicken.

It’s not impossible he contracted it at the Tulsa rally.

And what I wrote:
Cain died of Covid, however, most likely caught in Tulsa

Not definitely, but likely. So he might have caught i somewhere else? OK, although the timeline does not rule it out. Did he behave irresponsibly by not taking precautions? And does the administration have a motive to deny that Tulsa was responsible for a spread, denying what medical professionals are saying?

It's a tragedy -- a man died. Nobody here claimed it wasn't, and nobody here claimed he was a denier or thought it was a hoax. What is certain is that he didn't take it seriously to take simply precautions such as wearing a mask, and decided that being in close proximity to others who weren't wearing a mask wasn't so bad, and that attending a huge event that, contrary to what you posted (and as stated by the Director of the Tulsa Health Department), did lead to an increase of C19 cases wasn't such a bad idea.

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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2020, 07:52:41 AM »
Herman Cain should have had more sense and sat with this guy at the Tulsa rally.  While it is not possible to determine where he contacted Covid 19 it is certain he died from Coivid.  The statement from one individual that he died with Covid seems to be his usual MO to downplay and deny the severity of the virus......to what end is beyond me to understand. ???

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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2020, 09:39:03 AM »
to what end is beyond me to understand. ???

I don't get it either.

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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2020, 01:10:15 PM »
Hi folks..
Check out this recent interview w/Governor of S.D. on upcoming Sturgis rally..
Don't think it will be that problematic
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https://www.sturgismotorcyclerally.com/index.php?page=home
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2020, 01:23:57 PM »
Hello Everyone..
Here's the Sturgis rally website with live cam feeds FTY..
https://www.sturgismotorcyclerally.com/index.php?page=home
Cheers..
Ichi

That's  pretty neat. Instead of reading about Covid spreading, you can actually watch it happen in real time!

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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2020, 01:38:56 PM »
Well , it looks like attendance is wwwaaaaayyy down.. it's a good thing..
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2020, 07:57:37 PM »
 Noticed some cops standing guard around there with no masks.