Topic: Terry's Effing F2, return of the prodigal SOHC4?

[RAFster122s]

What the heck Terry, nothing wrong painting it blue. Nothing on the bike ID's the original color in the VIN.
If you like the blue, paint it blue. You have the paint.
 
Didn't figure you would miss the badge area, but it had gone un-mentioned as to how you addressed it...so I asked.

Been having back issues for past week and it sucks! Some days I can hardly stand, much less walk. Not fun. Sucks having spinal deterioration issues.

Old battery in VStrom gave up the ghost when subjected to our record hot summer. 115 days of over 100+ F temps and record number of days above 105 as well. Normally we have 12.3" of rain a year. We are over 5 inches behind just for monsoon rainy season.
New battery arrived this week, went with a cheap Amazon AGM battery. With the record heat I haven't been riding, probably should have to keep my sanity.

[Terry in Australia]

No worries David, and I sympathize with your back issues, I had CT guided steroid injections into my lower spine on Friday the 13th of March (how could I forget that date?) which has now worn off. I can go get another one any time I want, but because of the Covid thing, I'm purposely staying away from medical facilities, so am sucking down Tramadol and any other pain killers I can get my hands on.

As you know, I can't take anti-inflammatory tablets anymore for fear of burning a hole in my stomach pouch, so I'm walking around like a reverse hunchback at the moment. Oh well, as long as I have Ginger Beer and Diazepam to knock me out for a few hours each day, life is still bearable.

[RAFster122s]

The opioid crisis is so bad in this country they have locked down the ability to prescribe opioid pain meds so you virtually cannot be prescribed them. People heavily addicted to them and abusing them as well as numerous people dying from overdoses daily led to those restrictions. I have taken tramadol in the past and it is an effective pain killer, but can be tough to function if taking them regularly...but if you are needing that much pain killer you already are well beyond being able to function normally. None of my doctors will tough them now, just too much risk now because of the laws passed about them.
I had a couple nerve ablations in my neck in June after things calmed down from our initial surge in outbreaks. I still have some issues at the base of my neck and spine and am taking diclofenac cream for it. They haven't done much for the lower spine yet...

This lovely article will make you clean your screen more and should make you have second thoughts about handling paper money...
I wonder how much of the supply is COVID-19 tainted or infected? Brings new images in money laundering to mind. If all the supply has cocaine on it, then how long before it all has dead virus on it? Or, how long would it take to infect a larger portion of the supply through transfer?

https://www.zdnet.com/article/covid-19-virus-can-survive-on-smartphone-screens-for-28-days-claims-researchers/

[Terry in Australia]

Thanks David, that is scary, maybe why we can only use card payments at most retail outlets etc. I need to have another CT guided series of injections into my lower spine, but I'm staying away from all medical facilities at the moment, a friend of mine on chemo for lung cancer (who never smoked a cigarette in his life) contracted CV back in March, but somehow survived.

Anyhoo, back to the leaky F2 tank. I tipped the liner in and left it 24 hours, then baked it in the industrial oven for another 5 hours @ 40 deg C. I was surprised that even more of the liner had drained out into my industrial oven, which will probably be a pain to remove, because this sh1t sticks hard. The stuff that leaked onto my driveway set so hard, when I went to scrape it off it took the top layer off my concrete. Oh well.

I pulled it out, removed the tape that had covered the holes, and was happy that the liner had flowed into that area and filled pretty much the whole area under the badge mounting plate.

F2 tank JB Weld 12 Oct 2020 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

As per my previous posts, I mixed up some JB weld, and lathered it into the void, ensuring that I had the badge mounting holes clear.

F2 tank JB Weld 12 Oct 2020 1 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I put it back in the oven for another few hours, and today I took to it with my electric DA sander to machine off the excess.

F2 tank fix 13 Oct 2020 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

As previously mentioned, I dinged the tank in before I lined it, so had a good sized ding to fill with JB, so mixed up another batch, and slathered it in.

F2 tank fix 13 Oct 2020 4 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

And that's about as much JB weld as I'll need, it's a good 2-3mm deep at the lowest point, so with that KBR liner on the other side, it won't leak. I'll hit it with the sander again tomorrow, and if there's still some filling required, I'll just use some bondo. There are a couple of tiny dings in the tank, so I'll need to mix some up anyway, before I hit it up with some paint. Happy days.........

F2 tank fix 13 Oct 2020 2 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

[RAFster122s]

Good deal on the tank work! Moving right along...

[Terry in Australia]

Thanks David, if that tank leaks now, it’ll be because someone shot it.

[PeWe]

JB Weld is a very useful product!
I bought some extra when I read the importers webpage about shelf life of 25 years or more.

A typical product you suddenly need to fix something urgently.

[Terry in Australia]

Yeah it’s an amazing product Per, have you seen the “Project Farm” video’s on YouTube where  he makes a cylinder head for a Briggs and Stratton engine entirely from JB weld and the engine ran fine? Or where he cut a trench in another head and filled it with JB Weld and once again, it ran fine. He also did some fuel tank leak repairs, and once again, fine. Good enough for me, I made a fin for my Z1 engine with JB, haven’t run it yet, but confident it’ll be fine.

[PeWe]

I have not seen those videos, yet.
Epoxy the ported inlet ports on my old CB750 head has been an idea the last days.
Longer exposure of ethanol enriched fuel might be a problem when reading about epoxy porting.

It would be fine with a metal version of JB weld that can withstand heat, fuel..... Then make your own cylinder block, head etc.
Cold mold

[Terry in Australia]

Yeah mate, the main thing I’ve found is that tou need to have a thick enough layer to ensure it works. If too thin, it has very little strength. Thats why I purposely dented in the damaged area on the tank before I lined it, so that the layers of JB weld will be thick enough to provide a safe barrier.

[Terry in Australia]

Okay, so 24 hours on, I sanded back the second layer of JB Weld and decided that that was enough.

Terry's Effing F2 tank fix 14 Oct 2020 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I've no doubt that with the tank liner filling the holes and a 2-3mm thick layer of JB weld on the outside will make sure that the leak has gone for good. Of course, when you dent a panel in like I purposely did, there's a need to fill not just that dent, but the surrounding low spots, so I mixed up some bondo and lathered it in, like an "American Hot Rod" "restoration"........

Terry's Effing F2 tank fix 14 Oct 2020 1 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

The tool sitting on top of the tank is one of my old tools from back in the day when I used to paint cars, a body sander, which allows me to sand off the bulk of the filler, without losing the desidered shape. Once I'd roughed it out with the body sander, I used my oscillating ("DA") sander, to smooth out the scratch marks of the body sander, while knocking down the filler further.

Terry's Effing F2 tank fix 14 Oct 2020 2 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I had a few tiny dings on the right hand side, so filled and sanded them while I was at it.

Terry's Effing F2 tank fix 14 Oct 2020 4 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Next step was a coat of etch primer, to stick the primer surfacer to the bare metal. It turns out I have several cans of etch primer so it was no problem putting a thin coat on, etch primer should only be sprayed on thinly as it's just a "key" to hold the primer surfacer in place.

Terry's Effing F2 tank fix 14 Oct 2020 6 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Terry's Effing F2 tank fix 14 Oct 2020 5 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I then realised that I had absolutely no primer surfacer, to spray over the etch primer before wet rubbing it to ensure a nice smooth surface for the top coat, so after showing my son how to use "Spotty's Suck-o-Matic" to flush his brake lines on his car, I wandered inside and ordered a home delivery of some primer surfacer and wet and dry sandpaper. Hopefully the weather will be kind to me for the rest of the week, and maybe I can tip some fuel into it on the weekend, and go for a lap! (around the block sadly, fcuking lockdown's been extended for another 4 weeks.......)    

[Terry in Australia]

Well moving right along, the primer surfacer was delivered while I was still fuming about the atrocious service I received today from my "big box" hardware store. I ordered some stuff from Bunnings yesterday, was told that everything was in stock, and when would I like to collect it? I elected for 0930 as I had a video conference(?) at 11.

I rolled into Bunnings car park at  0930, to receive a text that the dremel mandrel I ordered was out of stock, sorry about that, blah blah blah. Fcuk you very much Bunnings, you had 24 hours to check your stock and tell me, but you didn't until one of your flunkies went to pick my order, and discovered that the mandrels were out of stock? Lovely. Still gave me the attachments, which of course I can't use without the quick release mandrel, you fcuking clowns.............

Anyway, arrived home, and the poor wife, not knowing I was fcuking ropeable, bounced out with the Repco box to tell me that my primer surfacer had arrived, which did neither of us any good, but I did apologize, so she wasn't too miffed with my behavior. I took a break from pretending to do some work, and hit the tank with a full can of primer surfacer.

Being that it was in the mid 70's today, but windy, I'm sure more primer surfacer disappeared into the atmosphere than went on the tank, but the good thing is it was too windy for bugs to land on it, and fcuk it up, so I had a pretty good surface to start with. Being a "K" guy, I almost forgot the tank lid flap thingy, but I did retrieve it, etch primed it, then hit it up with the primer surfacer, and hung it under the tank so I wouldn't forget to paint it.

Terry's Effing F2 Tank paint 15 Oct 2020 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Now it's been a black bike, probably from new, which is pretty rare here as for a long time black bikes didn't make it to Oz, something about safety, from memory? Anyhoo, I intended to paint it black until i realised that cliff's blue sidecover was a factory colour, so I ordered some blue metallic paint, that (to my color blind eyes) looked close.

Terry's Effing F2.2 Sunday fiddling 20 Sep 2020 5 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr 

The paint wasn't in stock and they didn't charge me for it, so I went back to black, but then on Tuesday the blue paint arrived. Buggar. Oh well, if I didn't like it, I could always use the blue as an undercoat, and paint it black. I sprayed one of the little 150 gram cans of blue onto it, and it didn't look bad. Now anyone here who knows anything about painting will know that one little can isn't enough for full coverage, and streaky metallic paint aint no good, so I sprayed on can #2, and this fixed the streaky paint. I remembered to paint the lid, and the underneath of the tank, or at least, where it'll be noticed, just like Honda did.

Terry's Effing F2 Tank paint 15 Oct 2020 1 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I emptied can #2 of 3, keeping in mind that I'll need to paint my new repro sidecover, and maybe (just maybe) my other sidecover and duckail, to make it all uniform. I then did some nice wet coats of clear lacquer without getting any runs or sags.

Terry's Effing F2 Tank paint 15 Oct 2020 2 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Now we've all seen those episodes of "American Hot Rod" etc, where they paint the car, clear coat it, then rub it back with wet and dry sandpaper to remove all the "Orange Peel" so they can smooth it out then buff it to a "wet" look. Basically, they're sh1t. A good painter will get something that glossy off the gun that it doesn't need wet rubbing and buffing. The trick is to get a nice wet coat without any runs or sags. Easier with a rattle can than a spray gun, as you're not throwing the same volume of paint in a wide fan arc, but if you know what you're doing, you'll get a good result. I'm happy.

Terry's Effing F2 Tank paint 15 Oct 2020 3 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I put it back into the garage as it was just starting to rain, but am more than happy with the result. All going well, I'll put fuel in it on the weekend, and take it for a lap around the block, or two...... Fcuking lockdown is never gonna end, or so it feels............

Terry's Effing F2 Tank paint 15 Oct 2020 4 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

[dave500]

looking bloody good mate.

[Terry in Australia]

Thanks Dave, I'm happy I took the time to do it properly.

[PeWe]

The tank look really good!!
Is it 2k paint or 2k clear on top of it?
The 2k clear on rattle can I used withstand fuel really well!

[Terry in Australia]

Thanks Per, nope, just good old acrylic lacquer, just like Honda used. 2K paint is great, but deadly, and I didn't want to suit up with a hazmat suit, breathing hood with fresh air feed and filter etc. The other problem with 2K is it takes a while to dry unless you have a heated booth, and I didn't want to give the critters any more time to get their little feet stuck in the clear.

[RAFster122s]

The blue does look very nice Terry. It is quite a tale from Bunnings  but not unheard...but, it is often repeated tale by many places since this lockdown and pandemic...

Now the cheeky b_____s are saying or questioning if this thing will turn into endemic!  Another case of someone catching the virus a second time with a far worse case of it the second time has been reported. Apparently, there have been 5 cases of reinfection...or at least by their count.

Hope you can get some seat time on the bike by weekend...that would be great.


 Sorry to hear they extended the lockdown there.

[Chetterooski]

Love that blue, looks great.

[Terry in Australia]

Thanks guys, and welcome Chetterooski, good to see a new face! David, yep, I saw you-know-who telling folks that he is now immune to Covid, and I laughed inwardly, China was reporting a 30% re-infection rate back in May, so just because someone's survived it the first time, there's no guarantee that they won't get it again.

A workmate of mine who retired last year contracted lung cancer (never smoked a cigarette, but handled chemicals for years, then worked as a jail warden where everyone smoked in confined spaces) and while in hospital in March getting chemo, contracted Covid-19. He was that bad that his wife was told to make the necessary arrangements because he wasn't expected to last the weekend, but somehow he got better, and was discharged a couple of weeks later.

He is still in isolation though as his lungs are really bad after both the cancer and the CV, and the doctors have told him that there's no guarantee that he won't contract it again, if he comes into contact with someone who has it. Having said all that, the new cases here in Melbourne are down below 10 again, so for a city of 5 million, I think we're doing well, and it's about time I was allowed out to go for a ride, considering that motorcycle riding is the ultimate in social distancing!

[Terry in Australia]

Thanks David, it is tragic that stupidity is in freefall in the US, which has 5% of the world’s population but 20% of the world’s Covid 19 deaths. Your example of your mom’s church is a classic example of stupidity reigning over common sense.

Last time I looked, the CV stats from the 2020 Sturgis event was over 300,000 new cases, but I don’t know how many deaths. Like you, I wear a mask whenever I’m out in the community, not just because it’s the law here, but because I don’t want to get it, my health is not great, and while I’m not scared of dying, I want to finish many more projects and ride my bikes.

I won’t talk about politics here because I don’t want my thread locked, so lets just leave that at the door, ok? Thanks for the compliment on the paint, i walked out this morning with the sun shining on it, and it really popped. I think I’ll need to paint the sidecovers and ducktail to match, but that won’t hurt, it’s quite a nice colour.

[RAFster122s]

Terry, not possible for Sturgis to have 300k cases. That would be some contact tracing ability they simply do not have in ace and they are attributing any cases to it. Virology statistics of spread could generate that many cases but how do you rule out pepe on a circle having other sources of contact  providing the virus. It would require a hell of a lot of microscopic tracing to link the strain and it's digital dna fingerprint to Sturgis and they simply aren't testing to that level.

So, I call bull#$%* on that statistic.

[Medyo Bastos]

I’ve got to agree with David! I’ve also got to agree that masks don’t work! I’m an essential worker in an essential field that has diligently worn a mask to as you’ve mentioned protect myself, and to protect others. I personally can’t afford to get sick, much less stop breathing...  but, no matter how diligently I’ve worn a fresh gotdam mask, washed my hands, sanitized my hands, and blah dee blah blah...  guess what? Uh, huh... the masks didn’t work! I’m still breathing, but I’m real sorry to say it isn’t because of the masks. If masks worked, I wouldn’t have gotten the moddafawk’n rona! You guys be careful out there, and no matter how careful you are, DONT get your feelings hurt if you do get sick. The rona doesn’t care what color you are, or how old you are. Just know we’re all here for you!

btw, I also agree that your bike will look great in blue!


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[madmtnmotors]

I've got to agree with Terry, I participate in this forum to celebrate the SOHC/4's not to put up with this political drivel. If I wanted to read that nonsense I would create a Twitter account and follow our twit in chief...

[Terry in Australia]

No worries guys, I don’t know any more about what’s happening on your side of the pond than what I see on your news services (Fox and CNN) so none of the “statistics” are mine, just what your news services are saying.

Regardless, this thread is about my Effing F2, so let’s keep it that way? I’d hate for a mod to shut it down before I’ve finished it.

[Terry in Australia]

Okay, back to the main topic, thank God. It's now bloody raining again, but this morning it was like a bright summers day. I took a break from slaving in the ol' virtual salt mine and wandered out to see how the paint looked after 18 hours or so, and was really happy with how glossy and smooth the finish is, and how the metal flake pops in the sunlight.

Terry's Effing F2 Tank finish 16 Oct 2020 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I wandered back inside and did some more virtual slaving, then around 3 pm I decided that I needed a delicious home made "Ginger Rocket" to calm my nerves on what should have been a lazy Friday afternoon. As I walked past the tank again, I thought I may as well hang all the hardware off it. I'd thought, for some reason that I'd need to touch up the black paint around the badges, but on inspection saw that the only issue was a buildup of old polish sitting in those areas, so didn't bother giving them a big cleaning, I'll worry about that later. The left badge wasn't a great fit, which is probably why crap built up betwixt the badge and the tank, so I used some double sided tape to help it fit on the left side, but it looks fine now.

Terry's Effing F2 Tank finish 16 Oct 2020 2 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

You know you're getting old when you spend way too much time aligning the fuel tank flap flap thingy, I couldn't get it to align properly until I realised that the two spotwelded tabs that hold the fuel cap in alignment were slightly bent in, so with some careful plier adjustments, the flap was pretty much aligned. Who cares? My OCD, that's who.

Terry's Effing F2 Tank finish 16 Oct 2020 1 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I resisted the urge to fill it with fuel and take it for a lap as when I cleaned out the petcock mounting threaded bung, some of the liner that had built up to around a 3/8" (10mm) solid block was still a bit gooey, so I'll leave it to cure for another day before I put some fuel in it, and let it rip. I will have to paint the sidecovers and ducktail, but I'll be going for a lap first.