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Offline marccrabtreee

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is the tongued washer on rear wheel the only way?
« on: November 21, 2020, 12:39:41 pm »
I'm putting the finishing touch on my 77 550 rear wheel and i'm wondering if the tongued washers that hold the sprocket on can be eliminated and replaced with red loctite? I would have to destroy the paint in order to fold them.

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Re: is the tongued washer on rear wheel the only way?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2020, 01:26:32 pm »
NOT red.
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Re: is the tongued washer on rear wheel the only way?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2020, 01:47:24 pm »
NOT red.

Red too strong? I could use blue?

Thanks for your response!

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Re: is the tongued washer on rear wheel the only way?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2020, 03:14:18 pm »
Bend tangs at 45 degree, then use pliers on tang and nut.

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Re: is the tongued washer on rear wheel the only way?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2020, 04:56:50 pm »
I often use a plain washer with nylock nuts and a drop of blue loctite.

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Re: is the tongued washer on rear wheel the only way?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2020, 05:19:26 pm »
Should be able to bend those washers without damaging paint...all you have to do is get enough purchase to use a punch and tap with a hammer into place.  Are new washers not available from Honda?  I know the 750 ones are.

Or do like the racers do and drill your nuts and safety wire
If it works good, it looks good...

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Re: is the tongued washer on rear wheel the only way?
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2020, 05:41:36 pm »
Should be able to bend those washers without damaging paint...all you have to do is get enough purchase to use a punch and tap with a hammer into place.  Are new washers not available from Honda?  I know the 750 ones are.

Or do like the racers do and drill your nuts and safety wire

Unfortunately no longer available for the 550. Thanks!

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Re: is the tongued washer on rear wheel the only way?
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2020, 05:42:34 pm »
I often use a plain washer with nylock nuts and a drop of blue loctite.

Thanks, I think this is the answer. I appreciate everyones input!

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Re: is the tongued washer on rear wheel the only way?
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2020, 06:31:42 am »
I often use a plain washer with nylock nuts and a drop of blue loctite.

Thanks, I think this is the answer. I appreciate everyones input!

+1

Red is reserved for things that are not removed very often. Red usually requires the application of heat to release.
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Re: is the tongued washer on rear wheel the only way?
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2020, 12:49:06 pm »
You can use red but need do so very sparingly. Same thing applies to other strong permanent thread lockers. I do it all the time and have no problem removing stuff. It takes CDF, skill not so much LOL You can also drill and safety wire. Lock-nuts work good too.
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