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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #150 on: March 13, 2023, 12:27:10 PM »
Ha ha, yes one of those would have been easier, but I worked with what I had at the time from the scrapyard in Saudi. The best motor and frame of the three I bought, was one of the F1’s with the 530 chain, but I didn’t want the rear disc set up, so ended up doing it all the hard way by getting 10mm machined off of the face of the hub where the sprocket goes.  Then at some point in time, realised that the swinging arm was not symmetrical, probably when I was machining new rear wheel bushes.
Anyway it all looks pretty good so I will run with this set up for now.
This of course is the bike that when I have finished it, I have no idea if I can get it on the road here in Spain, as it has no papers😬

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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #151 on: March 13, 2023, 01:00:53 PM »
Too bad a Vermont Registration wouldn't help...

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« Reply #152 on: March 14, 2023, 01:25:02 AM »
Dont stress about the rego, if you do get it you will probably be the only licenced bike in Spain lol 😁
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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #153 on: March 14, 2023, 09:55:56 AM »
Ha ha, thanks for your ideas guys.  I’m told that I could possibly get it registered for the road, but strangely the CR carbs and the MotoGPwerks exhaust wouldn’t be the problem. It’s silly little things like eu stamps on the wheel rims and the lights etc: I can’t see any markings on my wheel rims(got them off eBay from Italy.

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« Reply #154 on: March 14, 2023, 10:09:56 AM »
Ha ha, thanks for your ideas guys.  I’m told that I could possibly get it registered for the road, but strangely the CR carbs and the MotoGPwerks exhaust wouldn’t be the problem. It’s silly little things like eu stamps on the wheel rims and the lights etc: I can’t see any markings on my wheel rims(got them off eBay from Italy.

Out of curiosity.... Are those stamps required on a bike of this vintage?  Spain did not enter the EU until 1986.

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« Reply #155 on: March 14, 2023, 01:10:59 PM »
I’ve been told it’s because my bike is not standard, it’s like a new build, or at least a heavily modified original. So it will need a complete engineering examination prior to road worthiness inspection, then registration.  I’ve been told that this will cost about 2000euros 😬

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« Reply #156 on: March 14, 2023, 01:14:15 PM »
Now I’m getting to the interesting part of this build.  Fitting a fairing which is not supplied with any mounting brackets.  But I do have a MIG welder (never used one, how hard can it be) 😂

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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #157 on: April 06, 2023, 11:06:16 AM »
Installed and bled front brake lines to my twin disc conversion.  Lines bought from Holland on recommendation from PeWe. Thank you 👍

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« Reply #158 on: April 08, 2023, 01:36:18 AM »
Now I’m getting to the interesting part of this build.  Fitting a fairing which is not supplied with any mounting brackets.  But I do have a MIG welder (never used one, how hard can it be) 😂

How is the headlamp secured in the fairing? I was looking at my Rickman CR fairing a few months ago. The headlight pot is mounted to the brackets on the frame (missing) and pokes through the fairing. Your “fixed in place” set up looks good.

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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #159 on: April 08, 2023, 07:57:03 AM »
Very nice work!
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« Reply #160 on: April 08, 2023, 02:43:07 PM »
Thank you Mauik3
BenelliSEI, the fairing came with the headlight brackets fibreglasses onto the inside

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« Reply #161 on: April 09, 2023, 02:46:14 AM »
Thank you Mauik3
BenelliSEI, the fairing came with the headlight brackets fibreglasses onto the inside

Very nice. I have a replacement headlight pot for British cars (like an MGB, Sprite or MG Midget) that is plastic. Was thinking of bonding it directly into the Rickman fairing. Yours looks neater....

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« Reply #162 on: April 09, 2023, 03:08:52 PM »
Bonding plastic to f/glass is probably not that easy. Not sure if f/glass resin or epoxy resin would do it, so the bracket bonded to the fairing and bolted to the headlight shell is probably a good alternative.

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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #163 on: April 09, 2023, 04:24:04 PM »
Thank you Mauik3
BenelliSEI, the fairing came with the headlight brackets fibreglasses onto the inside

Very nice. I have a replacement headlight pot for British cars (like an MGB, Sprite or MG Midget) that is plastic. Was thinking of bonding it directly into the Rickman fairing. Yours looks neater....

Do you know anyone who's a boat builder? possibly find a nice set of special size brackets and ask that person the best way to bond the brackets into the fairing like Gamma's has been done.
I think that area will be the 'weak link' because of vibration..
The job being mine? I would also look for a rubber ring to install around the fairing(between the fairing and headlight rim)to keep the vibration tolerable.
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« Reply #164 on: April 09, 2023, 07:41:47 PM »
Thank you Mauik3
BenelliSEI, the fairing came with the headlight brackets fibreglasses onto the inside

Very nice. I have a replacement headlight pot for British cars (like an MGB, Sprite or MG Midget) that is plastic. Was thinking of bonding it directly into the Rickman fairing. Yours looks neater....

Do you know anyone who's a boat builder? possibly find a nice set of special size brackets and ask that person the best way to bond the brackets into the fairing like Gamma's has been done.
I think that area will be the 'weak link' because of vibration..
The job being mine? I would also look for a rubber ring to install around the fairing(between the fairing and headlight rim)to keep the vibration tolerable.

All good advice. The original Rickman headlamp set up is the Honda cb750 bucket mounted to the frame headstock area (not the fork legs). The fairing just sits around it. May just stick to that

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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #165 on: May 29, 2023, 02:34:58 PM »
I’ve been designing and making a mounting for the fairing. 
I hung the fairing from the ceiling in my workshop to position it.
I first drilled and tapped one hole on each side of the frame in a place that I considered would not create any structural weakness.  I then practiced using a MIG welder as it’s a new thing for me.  I made the mounting using steel plate and tubing. The mount holds the headlight which the fairing is attached to with the pre-installed brackets.
To ensure that the mounting was held permanently at the correct height, I filed a slot on the forward seam of the headstock then made u-section piece with a pin welded in it, which I added to the mounting.
Now working on an additional support for the rear of the fairing
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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #166 on: June 01, 2023, 01:23:07 PM »
Drilled and tapped the stops to reduce movement.  Installed bolts with Blue loctite 241, and lock nuts

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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #167 on: June 01, 2023, 02:13:25 PM »
Good solution
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« Reply #168 on: June 01, 2023, 03:42:45 PM »
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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #169 on: June 11, 2023, 02:54:49 PM »
Rear fairing support installed.  And front bracket painted.

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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #170 on: June 13, 2023, 05:40:01 AM »
Two brackets now installed, and the fairing is pretty solid.  Now making an extra couple of supports for the top sides of the fairing which will incorporate mirrors.  I’ve ordered the same mirrors that were on my Suzuki RG500 as a reminder😃

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« Reply #171 on: June 13, 2023, 12:36:16 PM »
First additional upper bracket in progress.  Welding is getting better I think

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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #172 on: June 16, 2023, 06:59:31 AM »
Back to the wiring whilst paint drys on the brackets.

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Re: Bike from scrapyard Saudi
« Reply #173 on: June 26, 2023, 11:54:21 AM »
Carefully applied electricity for the first time.  Still sorting the wiring.

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« Reply #174 on: June 27, 2023, 05:38:10 PM »
Amazing work! Loving the fairing and the dash very very nice!
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