Author Topic: Simple method for checking fuel levels  (Read 1371 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Deltarider

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,853
  • Another big liar has to face the truth.
Simple method for checking fuel levels
« on: January 26, 2021, 08:57:09 am »
The carbs on my CB500 receive gas via shared fuellines and T-joints, knowing: carb 1+2 share one supply route and carb 3+4 another. The tubes have different lengths, so simply draining the four carbs will not give accurate results for comparison: when drained, two carbs will give extra fuel, knowing all the fuel that is in the shared supply line. Here is a method to have 'clean' results.
Have the bike on the center stand.
A) Open petcock. Give it time to be sure all bowls will be full and the float valves are shut. Close petcock.
B) Drain carb 1 and carb 4. You may as well pour that gas in the tank. Close drainscrews.
C) Now drain carb 2, save that gas in a labeled glass. Idem for carb 3. Close drainscrews.
D) Open petcock again to allow all bowls to refill and the float valves to shut off again. Close petcock.
E) Drain carb 2 and carb 3. You may as well pour that gas in the tank. Close drainscrews.
F) Now drain carb 1 and save that gas in a similar glass as in step C). Idem for carb 4. Close drainscrews.
G) Position all glasses next to one another and compare the levels (see pic below).
I have done this test myself last weekend. All carbs showed the same amount of fuel: 50 ml exactly. Not having tampered with the floats ever and as all four carbs show the same quantity, I trust this result is how it should be. I'm confident my results go for all oldstyle carbs on the CB500 and CB550, as they share a same factory set float level of 22 mm. These carbs are numbered: 627B, 649A, 022A, 087A and 069A.
It is a simple test. No need to disassemble anything, no need to improvise a testtube. You do not even need four glasses. The second pic shows all you need. From left to right: gloves, any old used tin that will fit nicely under a carbbowl to collect the drained fuel and a measuring glass. That's all.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2021, 12:47:01 pm by Deltarider »
CB500K2-ED Excel black
"There is enough for everyone's need but not enough for anybody's greed."

Offline Deltarider

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,853
  • Another big liar has to face the truth.
Re: Simple method for checking fuel level CB500/550
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2021, 11:08:04 pm »
Forgot to mention it is considered good practice to drain carbbowls every 6 months anyway. So the investment in labour is modest compared to other methods. If all bowls produce the same amount of gas, rest reassured there's nothing wrong with your floats.
CB500K2-ED Excel black
"There is enough for everyone's need but not enough for anybody's greed."

Offline seanbarney41

  • not really that much younger than an
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,597
Re: Simple method for checking fuel level CB500/550
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2021, 02:01:29 am »
Very good info delta!  Thanks for posting.
If it works good, it looks good...

Offline flatlander

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,597
Re: Simple method for checking fuel level CB500/550
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2021, 02:53:10 am »
yes this is really cool.
i don't drain the bowls every 6 months (why?) but if i do, this is indeed very little additional effort.

Offline PeWe

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,108
  • Bike almost back to the 70's 2015
Re: Simple method for checking fuel level CB500/550
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2021, 03:05:25 am »
It would be fine with transparent bowls as a few carbs could get for many years ago.

Both my bikes have now OK fuel levels but I missed transparent ones before that.
Mikuni carbs have good wide drain plugs letting most debris out.

CB750 round tops stock carbs for fuel only. I'm sure bowls need to be removed now and then to see if there are dirt to be removed.
I'm sure my CB750 drain screws sits very hard. I have not tried to remove them.
Probaly fasten the drain screw head in a vice and rotate bowl as I did on 2 extra bowls I have with clear tube attached.
CB750 K6-76 1005cc JMR Billet block.
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

Offline Deltarider

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,853
  • Another big liar has to face the truth.
Re: Simple method for checking fuel level CB500/550
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2021, 03:27:55 am »
yes this is really cool.
i don't drain the bowls every 6 months (why?) 
Flatlander, I was advised to drain carbs every now and then by a Honda mechanic who used to do this himself (he owned a CB500 Four). Usually you will not detect much; maybe a little very fine dust at the bottom.
Maybe it's an idea to compose a norm overview of drained millileters (or cc's for that matter) of all CB Four models.
CB500K2-ED Excel black
"There is enough for everyone's need but not enough for anybody's greed."

Offline Little_Phil

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 520
Re: Simple method for checking fuel level CB500/550
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2021, 03:41:17 am »
Just a slight modification as I have tried this is to simply weigh each fuel measurement to give a quicker comparison. Kitchen scales with 1g resolution should be sufficient.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2021, 03:42:59 am by Little_Phil »