In an attempt to steer away from the nonsense and get back on track on this thread, the FDA gave full approval for the Pfizer vaccine today. A few people here cited lack of FDA approval as a reason for not getting vaccinated. Although I think I already know the answer, will this sway anyone here?
It also opens the path to mandates. And although we already know what the reaction will be from some quarters, it means those who "exercise their freedom" not to be vaccinated may find themselves unable to participate in certain things (that are not considered rights).
Perhaps vaccination rates will rise and the USA may turn a corner toward returning to normalcy. I wouldn't bet on it though.
eh...yeah...mandates....like can't buy groceries, freezing bank accounts, restricting movement, stopping medicare/medicade payments ?....Hey, nothing new.....I've seen stuff and attitudes like that published in a book a long time ago........you know, right here...
Uh, OK. Like I said -- nonsense. Or satan. Take your pick I guess, or just get the vaccine and help stop the spread of the virus.
Can you nutters start your own thread so people who believe in science can have a conversation? Thanks.
Satan?...where's that?......Your mentioning of government mandates as a point of a prideful boast and a gleeful hope just reminded me of that.......that it's not a new concept. Hell, I don't even go to church....does that settle that ?..(maybe it shoulda been a german reference, they were real good with mandates)...subtle humor is not easy to get across.
Let's have a conversation.
The virus shows up in the U.S.. We hunker down, shut down, mask up. What happens? The virus spreads, massive death and infection numbers follow anyway (alleged). Wear masks outside, don't go outside, wear two masks....numbers are still high. It didn't matter, did it! If we just get a vaccine,everything will be fine!....we are told.
So a year goes by, a vaccine shows up. Numbers start to drop. Why? vaccine ?, heard immunity? normal course of a viral disease? take your pick.
So now, the estimate is over 200 million have been vaccinated in the U.S.. Countless others have natural immunization due to previous infection. That's 200 million+ more than last year, plus masking, right? ...yet ...here we are again. Once again, it didn't matter, did it. Now its the unvaccinated ones fault. really?
An Israel study of 7,200 reinfections found that vaccinated with no previous infection history have a higher chance of reinfection than unvaccinated, previous infected.
Simplification...natural immunity wins. Don't blame it on unvaccinated .......and masks don't work....
Unvaccinated and no previous infection ? chances are higher for infection.
This variant is more contagious but less fatal....it's been said.
Where does it come from?....it's a mutant. If you've had the virus initially, your the least likely to spread it. Anyone else is capable of spreading.
It's going to mutate again and again and again.....
Mandates are not going to stop it. So stop with the mandate blustering.
and yeah, numbers are inflated, skewed, politicized, altered, and misrepresented.....and a covid death is worth more monetarily.