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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #500 on: January 12, 2022, 01:28:13 PM »
Scrubbed the rubber hook tab area. No date codes or stamps......

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #501 on: January 12, 2022, 03:20:45 PM »
Hard to see from picture but I can make out at least one numeral. 4

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« Reply #502 on: January 12, 2022, 04:08:02 PM »
Hard to see from picture but I can make out at least one numeral. 4

Wow.... missed that! Thanks. I was looking between he “flap” and the tank. Will report back.....







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« Reply #503 on: January 12, 2022, 05:18:52 PM »
Try putting a piece of paper over the area and "Rubbing" it with a pencil. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #504 on: January 12, 2022, 05:36:00 PM »
Try putting a piece of paper over the area and "Rubbing" it with a pencil. ;D

Will do. Thanks.

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #505 on: January 12, 2022, 05:56:15 PM »
Does this look right? I've flipped your previous photo.

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« Reply #506 on: January 12, 2022, 06:02:32 PM »
Alan.... looks good. I’ll get the answer tomorrow. Cheers, J.

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #507 on: January 12, 2022, 09:59:49 PM »
 I read 1980 is year 55 so 1970 would be year 45 and 1969 is year 44?  I have a 1970 rocker cover with 45 in the ink and a newer one, K1? with 46. I've never had the motor out of my sandcast but the PO's kid chromed the rocker and clutch covers anyway. I've had the others dechromed. The tank on 5511 is wrinkled and dimpled.
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« Reply #508 on: January 13, 2022, 06:30:13 AM »
Right Don. It’s my understanding The parts on the early bikes use different layouts of those dates.
The early tanks I’ve seen would have numbers looking like 4 4 28. It’s my understanding that would read 1969 April 28th. Later the codes changed then disappeared. On the grip end, top of your controls you’ll find numbers that seem to be the year and month. Rear hub and brake plate also.

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #509 on: January 13, 2022, 01:40:00 PM »
Here it is..... What does it mean?

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #510 on: January 13, 2022, 01:59:05 PM »
451 may be May 1, 1969 which is about right for your bike.

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« Reply #511 on: January 13, 2022, 03:07:55 PM »
I agree. I thought your bike would have an April built tank, by past experience, but who really knows how supply chains worked originally

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #512 on: January 13, 2022, 06:40:02 PM »
The 4 refers to 44 which is the anniversary of the swearing on of the Japanese emperor. In  1969 it was the 44th anniversary. The other numbers mean month and day. May 1st.
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« Reply #513 on: January 14, 2022, 06:23:07 AM »
The 4 refers to 44 which is the anniversary of the swearing on of the Japanese emperor. In  1969 it was the 44th anniversary. The other numbers mean month and day. May 1st.

Cool! One day after my 16th Birthday….

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« Reply #514 on: January 15, 2022, 12:28:48 AM »
Gez John, you're older than dirt, I was only 9! My brother ordered a new Triumph Rocket III in 2007, and wanted it built as close to his 50th birthday, July the 7th. It was built on my wife's birthday, July the 8th. My brother is long gone, but I've still got his bike. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #515 on: January 15, 2022, 01:36:10 PM »
Gez John, you're older than dirt, I was only 9! My brother ordered a new Triumph Rocket III in 2007, and wanted it built as close to his 50th birthday, July the 7th. It was built on my wife's birthday, July the 8th. My brother is long gone, but I've still got his bike. ;D

Still racing, riding, (skiing today)and generally making an a$$ of myself. Best I can do! J.

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« Reply #516 on: January 15, 2022, 05:02:25 PM »
Gez John, you're older than dirt, I was only 9! My brother ordered a new Triumph Rocket III in 2007, and wanted it built as close to his 50th birthday, July the 7th. It was built on my wife's birthday, July the 8th. My brother is long gone, but I've still got his bike. ;D

Still racing, riding, (skiing today)and generally making an a$$ of myself. Best I can do! J.

You're doing well mate, I see so many blokes who give up and hide inside when they get into their 60's, then just die, probably from boredom. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #517 on: January 15, 2022, 05:23:36 PM »
Gez John, you're older than dirt, I was only 9! My brother ordered a new Triumph Rocket III in 2007, and wanted it built as close to his 50th birthday, July the 7th. It was built on my wife's birthday, July the 8th. My brother is long gone, but I've still got his bike. ;D

Still racing, riding, (skiing today)and generally making an a$$ of myself. Best I can do! J.


Terry….. Seriously; whenever I slow up a bit, I read about “what you did yesterday” and get moving!
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« Reply #518 on: January 25, 2022, 01:31:57 PM »
Back on this project. Today I dropped off the front fork bottoms and wheel hub for polishing. Started to prep the trees for black paint and ordered new tubes, seals, etc. Next steps are to get a front end on the frame, mount a new tube/tire and get it clamped up on the work table. Vintage Dunlop I think?

If my buddy Gary comes for a shop day this week, the engine needs to “jump” up into the stand. It ran so well in the bike, I’m just planning to freshen the top end and check over the bottom opening and oil pump. No more Z50 distractions for a while! I want to ride this bike in the Spring.
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« Reply #519 on: January 27, 2022, 11:37:18 AM »
More snow and plowing today. Sanded the driveway in anticipation of a Fuel Oil Delivery, Friday morning. Experienced driver backs all the way UP to our home....... More snow tonight! If you look closely at the photo, you can see rabbit tracks, right on the veranda. The little bugger comes to the door when my wife hasn’t been to her “compost heap” for a few days! He was rewarded with a handful of carrots from the cold room. Drives my dog nuts, but Max doesn’t chase him off. Probably feels sorry for him.

Started painting the triple tree parts and then spent some cash on the Internet. Fork tubes, seals, bars, grips, and lots of bits from Vintage cb750.com. Also ordered up a set of Dunlop K70 tires, tubes and rim tapes from fortnine.ca. Getting up to speed again.
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« Reply #520 on: January 27, 2022, 11:47:24 AM »
Shop is the second (farthest) building, behind the barn. Cleared all the snow around it and got in to flip the frame on the work table. 42*F when I got in there, so wasted some Hydro.

 The headstock bearings were in such nice shape (bike only shows 17,000 miles on a working speedo), that I’m cleaning it all up and putting the original balls back in some fresh grease. As Frank Often said to me about this one; “Leave it alone, keep it original”. I am going to try and use 99% of the original bits!
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« Reply #521 on: January 27, 2022, 12:51:39 PM »
Good job John, I bought an “All Balls” taper roller bearing set for my T500, but it looked cheap and nasty, and so I used the original races and balls. I’ll save the tapered suckers for another T500 project that I’m daydreaming about.

I love the rabbit story, when I was a kid I’d shoot anything that wasn’t tied down, now I’d rather admire the little critters. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #522 on: January 27, 2022, 01:07:14 PM »
What a great view! Beautiful rolling hills. Which ski hill do you go to?

What was wrong with the fork tubes? Pitted? Where did you order them from?
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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #523 on: January 27, 2022, 01:21:18 PM »
Good job John, I bought an “All Balls” taper roller bearing set for my T500, but it looked cheap and nasty, and so I used the original races and balls. I’ll save the tapered suckers for another T500 project that I’m daydreaming about.

I love the rabbit story, when I was a kid I’d shoot anything that wasn’t tied down, now I’d rather admire the little critters. ;D

Terry.... I as unimpressed by the last set too. Also used the wrong washer and had to do it twice!

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« Reply #524 on: January 27, 2022, 01:26:20 PM »
What a great view! Beautiful rolling hills. Which ski hill do you go to?

What was wrong with the fork tubes? Pitted? Where did you order them from?

Brimacombe is closest. Planning a long weekend with all the family at Sir Sam’s. One tube had a nasty scar and both very rusty up top. I cleaned them and repaired the gouge. Vintagecb750 had a set for reasonable money. I’ll decide when they arrive. The last set I bought from Cyclex were very slightly oversized on the OD, so not buying from them again. Tried “Franks”, but no replies to my enquires....