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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #850 on: January 28, 2023, 05:47:36 am »
Vapor blasting looks to be top shelf work! That fellow’s shop sounds like a place that would be fantastic to hang out and watch the fellow work if he didn’t mind your presence. The old ways and skills of a lot of old machinists and other craftsmen is fascinating to watch… sometimes you see the logic in their steps and learn new ways to approach things. Often these guys apprenticed with guys and you see generations of knowledge in action. When I was starting out in product engineering after college I got to hang out with a few machinists and a facilities maintenance guy and I enjoyed learning from the old guard. It opened my eyes to different solutions and the one machinist did maintenance and refurbishment and periodic rebuilds on some of our equipment that was probably 75 years old then, mid 80s.
Lost artisan ways…

David.... this guy is really fascinating. Built his first Chopper when he was 16, in his parent’s basement. Next one (he still has it) used a GL1000 drive train. Two small radiators under the side cover (scoops like on a jet aircraft), including small fans under the seat! Ceiling of the shop is filled with radio controllerd aircraft that he builds too! Next time, I will take photos.
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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #851 on: January 28, 2023, 05:56:44 am »
It’s pouring here today but all is well.
That shop sounds great.

Your weather goes down the Drains! Photos of head. Spotless.....

That head looks great, do you plan to paint?

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« Reply #852 on: January 28, 2023, 06:28:29 am »
It’s pouring here today but all is well.
That shop sounds great.

Your weather goes down the Drains! Photos of head. Spotless.....

That head looks great, do you plan to paint?

Yes..... originally they had a light coat. Will do the same. I use the Duplicolor 1615 engine paint. Very close to original....

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« Reply #853 on: January 28, 2023, 06:57:24 am »
^^^ Beautiful...

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« Reply #854 on: January 28, 2023, 07:10:28 am »
It’s pouring here today but all is well.
That shop sounds great.

Your weather goes down the Drains! Photos of head. Spotless.....

That head looks great, do you plan to paint?

Vapor blasting is the absolute best way to "refinish" aluminum, I have done at least two motors plus numerous parts. I painted the Honda motor but let the Kawasaki H2 motor "naked" as that is the way it came from the factory in '74. I sent the motor [case, 3 cylinders and 3 heads] to member Nils in AZ and he did a great job for a reasonable price [sadly, he has since closed his shop down].  After 3+ years, the motor still looks great.   

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« Reply #855 on: January 28, 2023, 07:20:42 am »
Thanks, the K0 is gone now, but hope the S/C will look as good

Steve..... that bare top end looks great! My cases need paint, so I’ll have to “dust” the top to match.

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« Reply #856 on: January 28, 2023, 07:24:12 am »
Thanks, the K0 is gone now, but hope the S/C will look as good

Steve..... that bare top end looks great! My cases need paint, so I’ll have to “dust” the top to match.

Thanks John.  I would do the same, paint the entire engine.  Did you ask about prep before paint? Sometimes VB can leave a light residue.  I dont recall what I did on my Honda motor that I painted, maybe nothing?
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« Reply #857 on: January 28, 2023, 07:29:41 am »
Thanks, the K0 is gone now, but hope the S/C will look as good

Steve..... that bare top end looks great! My cases need paint, so I’ll have to “dust” the top to match.

Thanks John.  I would do the same, paint the entire engine.  Did you ask about prep before paint? Sometimes VB can leave a light residue.  I dont recall what I did on my Honda motor that I painted, maybe nothing?

I think after I lap the valves in, I’m going to put a storage tote in the bath tub and give it a hot water and lots of dishwashing liquid “bath” with a really good scrub. Can’t hurt....

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« Reply #858 on: February 03, 2023, 08:17:40 am »
Tried lapping in valves this morning. Shop was too “cool” and the suction cup just wouldn’t stick to the  valve faces!! Outside temp is -21 degrees Celsius. Heating up the parts, bench, and shop. Will try again later...... Frostbite weather.

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« Reply #859 on: February 03, 2023, 09:01:16 am »
Tried lapping in valves this morning. Shop was too “cool” and the suction cup just wouldn’t stick to the  valve faces!! Outside temp is -21 degrees Celsius. Heating up the parts, bench, and shop. Will try again later...... Frostbite weather.
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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #860 on: February 03, 2023, 10:42:01 am »
Tried lapping in valves this morning. Shop was too “cool” and the suction cup just wouldn’t stick to the  valve faces!! Outside temp is -21 degrees Celsius. Heating up the parts, bench, and shop. Will try again later...... Frostbite weather.
Bring it into the kitchen ;)
Your head is cleaner than a frying pan ;D
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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #861 on: February 03, 2023, 11:45:32 am »
When down there this aft and just gave up. It was even cooler. Suppose to warm up a bit by Sunday...

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« Reply #862 on: February 06, 2023, 12:43:30 pm »
Very lightly lapped in the valves to #1 today. Screwed in a plug, flipped it over and filled the chamber with clean varsol. Went back in 10 minutes, not a drop of seep. Also checked and cleared every tapped hole in the head.

Despite the claims of the Vapour Blasting Shop, there was a bit of crap in the bottom of every blind hole. Blew them all out, but also checked to see if the head fits in my “new to me” ultra sonic tank. I’m going to strip those valves out again, and lay the head up side down in the tank basket for an hour “buzz”. I want this thing spotless.

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #863 on: February 06, 2023, 01:07:22 pm »
Nice!

That head is going to be so clean......

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #864 on: February 07, 2023, 06:23:13 pm »
Nice!

That head is going to be so clean......

Did it today and it worked well! Finish lapping valves and assemble head tomorrow.

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #865 on: February 07, 2023, 08:59:52 pm »
Much blasting media in the tank?
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
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CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #866 on: February 08, 2023, 06:16:38 am »
Much blasting media in the tank?

Per..... not really. I think what was stuck in all the threaded holes was old dirt that got “packed” in by the vapour blasting. I dug around in each spot with a long, sharp point, turned it upside down in the tank, and all came clean.

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« Reply #867 on: February 08, 2023, 12:55:57 pm »
Finished up valves, all back in the super clean head!

Waiting for “fin repairs” on the barrels, lots of other stuff to do before top end build.
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« Reply #868 on: February 08, 2023, 01:11:17 pm »
^Looks nice.....

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« Reply #869 on: February 08, 2023, 01:13:54 pm »
^Looks nice.....

Thanks. Turned out OK.

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #870 on: February 15, 2023, 09:56:29 am »
Fin repairs to damaged (they were cracked and bent) barrel tuned out absolutely perfect. See before and after photos. Guy I went to is a serious craftsman, did a very light hone as well.  I am delighted.

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #871 on: February 15, 2023, 09:59:27 am »
How did he fix it?
Just bent it straight or weld needed?
It is not visible.
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #872 on: February 15, 2023, 10:15:10 am »
All the bottom ones were bent and cracked at the base, inside. Took them all off, straightened, welded, built up, ground and shaped. A few, with small dings, he built up with weld, and reshaped. Finally, with several small air tools he built for refinishing old Indian blocks and heads, he finished the surfaces to perfection...... Very impressive, invisible repair.

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« Reply #873 on: February 15, 2023, 11:23:24 am »
A real craftsman!
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Early Sandcast Found......
« Reply #874 on: February 15, 2023, 01:58:41 pm »
It’s looking really good.
I had a bin with about 50% Simple Green and water, it did a great job on most parts if I gave it some time.
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