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Re: Would you want Refurbished Engines?
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2021, 12:43:09 PM »
The K0/1/2 and the F0 engines received Stellite guides, ... and can last over 100,000 miles ...

Or over 165,000 miles and counting in the case of a '75 F I am familiar with ...
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Re: Would you want Refurbished Engines?
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2021, 09:08:00 PM »
I would be interested. But I would want one as close to my bike as possible.  Serial number-wise. Should not be hard as it is a 74. I have a 74 bought in a Rubbermaid bin a few years ago. It was taken apart in 85. I sent the Juggs and head to a machine shop and they have been under the bed since for an 836 project. all the top end stuff was in cool whip containers surely missing something! I do have the oil jets.
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Re: Would you want Refurbished Engines?
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2021, 09:13:58 PM »
The K0/1/2 and the F0 engines received Stellite guides, ... and can last over 100,000 miles ...

Or over 165,000 miles and counting in the case of a '75 F I am familiar with ...

A case in point! :D
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Re: Would you want Refurbished Engines?
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2021, 03:50:47 PM »
 OOh I got an early F0 in the shop, I was interested in the 76 F/K engine assembly combinations. My brother had mentioned mysteriously faster 750's on occasion.
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Re: Would you want Refurbished Engines?
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2021, 10:32:59 PM »
OOh I got an early F0 in the shop, I was interested in the 76 F/K engine assembly combinations. My brother had mentioned mysteriously faster 750's on occasion.

The fastest ones that I remember had the "F" pistons and cam over a "K" bottom end, with the (nicer and slightly lighter) "F" alternator rotor, running the 086a carbs and 2-outlet petcock on the tank. This gave the earlier, taller primary drive ratio to the extra-power top end, and the top speeds were quite a bit more, closer to the old K0 top ends again (131-136 MPH). The compression numbers could reach 155 PSI on a broken-in engine, hinting at the pistons and cam inside. The really doggy ones had the opposite, with the lower "F" primary drive, taller first gear, "single-outlet petcock, with the "F" head over the flat-topped pistons inside K5 cylinders, which were 1mm taller than the previous versions. These bikes wouldn't reach 100 MPH in most cases, and a compression test would come up with low numbers like 100-102 PSI, even hot.

This stuff is why the F0 and K5/6 parts fiche show(ed) both petcocks in their fuel tank parts schematics. In the early 2000s Honda "sanitized" the many parts schematics and reduced most of the listings to just one type (F or K) in the online listings, so this lore is slipping away. I have old copies of those (from when I wrote My CB750 Book) that I used for research before that happened, though.

Some of you might remember the ads Honda ran about being able to reach 50 MPG with the K4/5 during the gas crisis of that era: what they did was to install 1mm taller cylinders (compression ratio 8.8-ish:1 instead of 9:1) and lower the float bowl levels to about 26.5mm, and installed solid-tipped air screws in the carbs. This caused the mixture to lean out slightly in the 1500-3500 RPM range, and with the US speed limit at 55 MPH and top gear showing 3900+ RPM to get there, plus the slightly oversized Bridgestone rear tire of the K4/5 bikes, it actually could reach that MPG. But, it could not pull it in top gear to much more than 105ish MPH top speed, although few riders noticed it.
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