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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #950 on: September 06, 2022, 04:10:30 PM »
Ha ha. I bet you do David, but not withstanding your incredible analytical skills, some folks think that it’s ok to go to Hawaii and go for a swim. As much as you can’t blame the sharks for mistaking a French woman for a domestic seal, you shouldn’t blame her because she apparently swam in murky water, she’s probably not an expert on shark attacks. ;D


I guess I am an odd bird as I have always been amazed by the ocean and considered being an oceanographer at one point. I read a lot and read about shark attacks and conditions during attacks and feeding and what they think leads to a nibble or attack. Normally done by juvenile sharks. Man-eaters not necessarily the case. Some sharks are more prone to attacking man than others. I guess I am cautious and try to be informed. So, I know not to snorkel in conditions what could have me confused for a seal or meal... I tend to heed warnings and history. Often we are swimming with sharks and don't know they are there.
I figure if it is my time to go I will not be able to stop that event.
Darwin award winners are common, I try to not become one. Some people seem determined to become one.
It is sad she got bit, but fools often rush in where angels fear to tread. Why would you continue to snorkel in murky water? If you cannot see well in that area you move on to another area.
We all do stupid things from time to time, me included. Got many injuries I pay for everyday where I was stupid. Just trying to be less stupid...
Be it Mt Lion, Bear, snakes, bison, sharks, etc...I tend to try to understand the major things that cause them to attack or bite and try to be observant and avoid the riskier conditions. I grew up in forest nearby as a kid and spent time in nature and learned from my grandfather who was a hunter and woodsman and part Cherokee Indian.

Entitled people today feel they can do anything without consequences, they become the cautionary tales for others.
Got passed Sunday by a guy on a white liter or larger sport bike and he had two helmets strapped to the sides of the bike and he was wearing none.  Saw him at an intersection waiting to turn right a mile previous. He passed me 15-20 miles faster and 1/2 mile later turned left. I doubt he will live to see retirement, but he might be lucky to do so. Riding how he did, I think it unlikely... especially in Tucson without a Hemet.

As John Wayne was quoted to have said, "If you are going to be stupid, well then you better be tough!"
 
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #951 on: September 15, 2022, 02:06:20 PM »
Like the guy trying to hand feed a wild bison (YouTube video), what could go wrong?

Anyway, next Wednesday I fly over to Honolulu to pick up the tank and body work. I will post some photos when I get them. If this fellow, his name is William Hannibal, fixed the tank he’s a master metal fixer, I’m anxious to see it.
I’m working up to the next phase of trying to solve the oil problem, my oil filter bolt is taking a long time to get here which is slowing me down.
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #952 on: September 15, 2022, 02:49:35 PM »
Hey Steve, do you have a FB account? I was reading a thread on one of the Kawasaki Z pages about warped heads causing cams to bind? ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #953 on: September 15, 2022, 07:56:27 PM »
I do, seldom use it. Got a link?
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #954 on: September 15, 2022, 08:03:36 PM »
I do, seldom use it. Got a link?

I’ll try to find it again Steve. A guy had made a big steel plate to bolt his head to, to line bore the cam bearings. I saw it and immediately thought of you. ;D
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #955 on: September 23, 2022, 06:10:30 PM »
Got the body work. It’s root beer/orange. I was going for green/yellow but decided to keep it like it was built. I’m happy with the results, the fellow that did it really got into it. The original tank had major damage which he fixed, very nice work. All striping is painted, the paint is PPG. I got the gas cap latch on, that was a little fiddly!
I posted one “before repair” photo, same tank, hard to believe.
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #956 on: September 23, 2022, 06:11:56 PM »
Now on to the oil system.
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #957 on: September 23, 2022, 06:33:09 PM »
Steve,that 'paint/repair person' does Amazing quality work ! 8) 8)
I like that color combination too.

Can you show a picture of the bottom of the finished tank ?

Hello Steve? Did you see this question ?
How about a picture of the bottom of your restored fuel tank.
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #958 on: September 23, 2022, 06:43:50 PM »
Got the body work. It’s root beer/orange. I was going for green/yellow but decided to keep it like it was built. I’m happy with the results, the fellow that did it really got into it. The original tank had major damage which he fixed, very nice work. All striping is painted, the paint is PPG. I got the gas cap latch on, that was a little fiddly!
I posted one “before repair” photo, same tank, hard to believe.

That is magnificent Steve, well done! How did he do it, did he cut the bottom out and bash it out from the insides? You reminded me that I need to find that FB post about warped heads causing cams to bind, I'll go do that now. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #959 on: September 23, 2022, 07:14:40 PM »
Great job. 

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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #960 on: September 23, 2022, 08:43:56 PM »
Great work, very nice. You are lucky to find someone capable and talented enough to do the repairs. The build book for the bike is going to be amazing, jaw dropping. This bike should appreciate your efforts more, it doesn't seem to want to be ridden again given the challenges it has thrown up...
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #961 on: September 24, 2022, 12:00:55 AM »
That tank repair and paint are beautiful, congratulations on finding that guy.

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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #962 on: September 24, 2022, 12:03:47 AM »
Good looking tank and sidecovers. :)
Good choice to go for the bike's original color.

Only cam-oil-head issue left.
It might be what Terry has found, warped head.

My local tuning guy always check the head's upper side if flat (not warped) when he got one from me for restore plus eventual porting.
CB750 head can be milled on both sides for flatness.
He described it as cam will be stucked if running too tight when tighten everything if warped.
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #963 on: September 24, 2022, 08:00:43 AM »
I'll be checking everything again soon.uAir and a 64 Impala in his shop for the body work. His shop is in the industrial area between Honolulu airport (HNL) and Waikiki called Sand Island. It's full of metal buildings and run down structures. There may even be some old WWII quonset huts around.
Side note:
Stud welders are not new, the original was called a Nelson stud gun, invented by a welder (named Nelson) at Mare Island Naval Shipyard a long time ago. I used to work there.
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #964 on: September 24, 2022, 06:05:21 PM »
Well I posted on FB yesterday asking for a link to that thread Steve, but so far, nada. I might ask John Clifton if he has a link, as he's usually all over the engineering threads. I've got a stud welder here, I bought it when I was painting cars 30 years ago. I wouldn't use it on a motorcycle gas tank though, as you'd imagine it spot welds a nail to the metal, and needs to be ground off once you've used it to pull a dent, so the metal gets very thin in that location, and quite often it'll pull a tiny hole in the metal which isn't an issue with a car fender, but not on a gas tank. I'd hope that the repairer didn't use a stud welder to pull the dents out of your tank. ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #965 on: September 25, 2022, 07:02:18 AM »
Steve...... paint looks amazing! Nice job.

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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #966 on: September 25, 2022, 07:50:14 AM »
Feels good to know it's the original tank
My other tank is a re-pop.
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #967 on: September 25, 2022, 09:19:52 AM »
You have 2 complete sets?
Stock set for extra special events, the other for other rides.

I understand if all rides are very special events, not add too much wear on that bike which is one of the early few.

You need another one for daily rides, a later one :)
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #968 on: September 25, 2022, 11:57:35 AM »
Steve,see my post #957.
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #969 on: September 25, 2022, 03:18:41 PM »
I’ll get a photo of the bottom, sorry for the delay, I just launched into a 70” x 42” x 3” mango table top project that we decided we need. The slab is a sister from the same large local tree that I made our big kitchen island and small dining table from. This table will be out on our front Lanai (porch) for larger gatherings.

Awhile ago I mentioned we were waiting for a Honda Acty Kei truck (tiny truck). It came in. It’s all wheel drive, has a super low forward and reverse gear, locking differential, A/C and is in pretty good shape, 1996. After the Oahu dealer is done with it, the same fellow that did the tank is taking it for minor body work, paint and upholstery. We are excited. These things have become a popular item here, I’ll put a little lift on it (springs are old) and better wheels and tires, maybe some larger brakes.
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #970 on: September 25, 2022, 04:00:22 PM »
Did you purchase that Acty Kei from a large company that has a fleet of them ?  if so,that one may have had regular service intervals,which is a plus.
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #971 on: October 02, 2022, 05:51:10 PM »
The Acty was just imported, it’s now at the same shop that did the tank for paint and a little body repair. I will need to check things out when I get it over here.

As for the Z1. I did a more thorough oil in the head flow test today, I’ve attached a crude video. I bought an oil filter bolt, threaded the holes, plugged 3 of them and put an air fitting on the 4th. I assembled the cylinders and head after checking all passages again with my little air gun. Then I connected air to the oil filter bolt and pushed air into the head (and all the other places it is connected to). The motor sound is the oil pressure switch lifting and seating which makes me think there isn’t much pressure getting in so it may be air at or near designed oil pressure. The flow deflected my little strip of paper at all oiling holes. I had to hold it just right or the flow around the area would sort of suck the paper down.

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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #972 on: October 02, 2022, 05:59:40 PM »
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #973 on: October 02, 2022, 06:03:44 PM »
Tough to tell if there is any holes where there shouldn't be due to past sins or machinist or other POs which are diminishing the quantity you have for the cams...
Sure oil is suppose to go other places too, but tough to tell if oil is getting diverted where it shouldn't be.  At least you have consistent or what appears to be consistent volume of air out to the cam oiling ports...

Have you had the head checked by a Machinist to ensure it is flat?
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Re: Maui Z1 1973
« Reply #974 on: October 02, 2022, 06:05:51 PM »
I actually have some ways to do that check, which I’ll be doing.
I’ve posted a photo of the underside of the tank that was repaired.
I can’t get over the tank, it’s beautiful.
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