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 Newer four door F350, might be a dually and a red featherlight trailer with a 61 bubble top chevy inside. Belongs to my friend, was stolen last night in the Seattle area. New car, pro's pick at Goodguys this year and was on a car show tour.
  Police found it, no report yet on condition of rig or contents. They are going there now.
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 The car was out of the trailer, the back seat was already out and the car is dirty like they drove it on a dirt road. They caught 3 of the 5 involved but had to let them go????
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 A local longtime weatherman just did a Facebook shout out very recently that his car was stolen from a local business and gave a description with plate number etc.. Trailers,cars about anything thats not nailed down is in play nowadays big time. Not sure right now but with the Covid the jails were basically closed around here and not accepting new customers unless it was a serious felony like murder and the thieves know it. I know for a fact because of an incident I had and talking with the discouraged officers.

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In Seattle specifically and Washington in general the liberals have enacted laws that have pretty much tied the police's hands. They now are required to have probable cause to even detain a suspect. Suspicion is not enough anymore. Seattle Police department has lost almost 300 officers because of the new laws. They don't want to go to prison for doing their job. There's multiple shootings in the Seattle area every night. I grew up there and I only go there if I absolutely have to.
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Re: Seattle area, stolen tow rig and show car. Edit. found, condition unknown
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2021, 06:54:50 AM »
Reminds me of a buddy's story. he bought a '62 Impala convertible from his uncle for $10 around 1984. We drove it around, and the brakes failed on us once and we almost went into Lake Washington. He parked it, and then a few years later, when he had started working for a car resto place, decided to work on it. It got stolen from a trailer behind his house one night. Reported it, etc., but nothing happened.

Fast forward twenty years, to 2016. He got a call from an LA detective and they had his car. It was sitting on the street in front of a paint shop -- the new owner, who didn't know it was hot, had it painted and all sorts of work done to it. Someone walked by and thought it was his stolen '62 Impala, so he called it in and the polcie towed it. They looked at the vin tag in the door, decided it wasn't stolen, and called the paint shop to come get it. The guy at the paint shop was rude and insisted the cops tow it back to the shop. The cops said no, the guy swore at them, and then the cop said he was going to hold onto it for a few more days and do another check. This time they checked the vin on the frame and discovered it was my friend's car. After about 9 months, he could get it, so he drove down from Seattle and picked it up. The guy who bought it from the thieves had put a big engine in it and begged my friend for it. Anything on the car, whether original or not, belonged to my friend but he let him have the engine back. I met him there, and he gave me his girlfriend's KZ400 since she didn't ride it and it had sat for a few years (got it running, rode it around, sold it a year later before I moved and sent him half the money, which was our deal). Dunno if he ever finished the Impala but he had everything for it, including a new engine.

Glad this recovery was quicker.

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Re: Seattle area, stolen tow rig and show car. Edit. found, condition unknown
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2021, 04:26:17 PM »
 Apparently unloading and pushing a stolen car down a dirt road is not evidence of possession or theft.
 Someone related to the re-construction of the car was asking for names. 
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Re: Seattle area, stolen tow rig and show car. Edit. found, condition unknown
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2021, 09:20:58 AM »
  Friday I heard there were some paint chips where they tried to pry the trunk open and a couple scratches just from pushing it around. I'm not sure if the Goodguys car show tour has been cancelled.
  Coddling criminals was a hot topic among his friends this weekend, I tried to stay out of it and was social distancing anyway.
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Re: Seattle area, stolen tow rig and show car. Edit. found, condition unknown
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2021, 04:33:21 AM »
Your friend is extremely fortunate to have his stuff back!!
I am a Seattle native and can attest that it has turned into a cesspool. The politicians in Seattle and Washington State are a bunch of communist thugs that need to be thrown in jail.
I am afraid to leave the house on any of my bikes or my car for fear that they will get stolen.
There is a facebook page that I follow PNW Stolen Cars and it is obvious what is going on.  I have learned that Ford F150/250/350's can be stolen in less than a minute. They part out the cars right on the city streets or in their encampments. If the get caught they give a bull #$%* excuse as to why they are wrenching on it and walk away. No arrests made.

Hot spots for having your vehicle stolen from are any hotel on the I-5 corridor, Home Depot, and Walmart parking lots.
Catalyctic converters are being stole while you are in the grocery store shopping.

I think we need to round up these tweakers and the politicians and feed them to the sharks. I don't care who they once were or what their sorry story is.
And if covid is so deadly why aren't the tweakers dropping like flies? Maybe meth and heroin is the cure?




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Re: Seattle area, stolen tow rig and show car. Edit. found, condition unknown
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2021, 04:44:15 PM »
  That is a sad state of affairs. GTA was once a serious crime. Now it's like a parking ticket. 
  I hope none of those guys has an accident any time in the near future. It might look suspicious.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2021, 05:37:02 PM »
Meh, I'm a Seattle native and although I don't live there now the only thing that's really changed is the affordability of the place -- which is capitalism, not communism. My friends who bought houses in the 1990s are pretty happy about it though. But that's what's pushing homelessness, along with a lack of social services.

As for crime? Robbery, burglary, property crime, and violent crime have all been on a downturn since 2013 (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/third-world-hellhole-new-data-shows-seattle-had-lowest-property-crime-rate-in-decades/). Right wing media are reporting that Seattle is a crime-infested hellhole, but it's not.

2020 was an anomaly -- high murder rate, but that is also reflected in many other places and is due to a bunch of different factors, the pandemic included.

Police have been leaving the force, but police have also done some terrible things over the last several years and may feel as though the impunity they enjoyed is being removed -- which is probably a good thing.

As for the politicians -- yeah, they're politicians. But they get elected, and some re-elected. The mayor is pretty widely hated by both the left and the right. And there's one socialist member of the city council. There's a recall campaign against her, but the other side can't get its 5hit together enough to make it happen.

I don't feel afraid driving or riding my bike when I am home. It's not that bad, it's just media hype. After all, people still keep moving there.

 
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2021, 06:12:27 PM »
 Good to hear, thanks. It seems the media has to keep us on edge to sell ads.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2021, 07:11:47 PM »
Meh, I'm a Seattle native and although I don't live there now the only thing that's really changed is the affordability of the place -- which is capitalism, not communism.

I should clarify, because, well of course a lot has changed. Gentrification. I remember when the whole area around Pike Place was seedy and dangerous. Not so much anymore. Same for Rainier Valley.

 The Seahawks won a Superbowl, and blew a second. The Sonics left town. The Mariners don't seem so futile. Pro soccer has been back for years (my brother played on the Sounders in the 70s). The women's basketball team has won championships.

Traffic? Worse than ever.

Big tech is all over the place (see: affordability).

Like any big city, Seattle has sketchy zones. It's just not the crime-infested place people make it out to be.

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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2021, 05:45:02 AM »
Capitalism not Communism? Really? True capitalism does not exist in the USA. We are a society that is supported by welfare, and Seattle (King County) is a Sanctuary City, so the amount of welfare and social services we pay for is through the roof, plus the school levies are ridiculous.$300 million to pay for a new school for kids who speak English as a second language? 
If your rent is high you can thank the taxes for that. The monthly tax bill on my house is $600 and I just received notice it is going up 15% for 2022.

As for the crime in Seattle on the decline.....you are nuts if you believe that. Seattle police no longer take reports of property crimes, so yeah, reports of crimes has decreased but I can tell you that it is on the rise big time. Not just property crime, but all sorts of shenanigans is fair game now. Shoot, it's legal to take over 5 city blocks and rename it, set the police station on fire, drugs are legal too!

Sorry for the rant.

Here is a link to the Puget Sound Auto Theft Task Force's facebook page where they talk about your buddies car.
https://www.facebook.com/105464318414456/posts/149782293982658/

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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2021, 11:18:17 AM »
Washington has no state income tax, one of the few states in the country that doesn't. That's why so many capitalists -- here I mean real capitalists, people who are wealthy and who make money from investments and industry and who earn otherworldly salaries, like Bill Gates, Paul Allen and Jeff Bezos (three Washingtonians) and the wealthy tech people who have moved to the city, not people who like "capitalism" and are wage earners -- move to places like Seattle. You can't get much more capitalist than not charging taxes on income. And it's "free market" -- they have driven up house and rental prices so much that people can't afford it.

But state revenue has to be made elsewhere, so there are taxes on property. Nobody likes paying taxes, but I imagine your house taxes reflect the value of your house on the market (and they usually lag by a few years). I imagine, if you own a house in Seattle, that it has gone up in value tremendously in the past couple of decades. Your taxes reflect that. But it also means your investment has paid off, so congrats.

As for the police not reporting crimes, that's news to me and I am skeptical. Like any other bureaucracy, the police need to show work to justify their budget. Not reporting crimes intuitively doesn't make sense.

We can disagree as to what policies help the most people (or help oneself, I suppose). But communism means something specific -- the state owns the means of production and private property is abolished. You paying taxes on your house -- your private property -- is contrary to the core of communism. People on the east side of the mountains -- predominantly rural, predominantly conservative -- actually take more than what they give into taxes. In effect, the west (Bellingham, Everett, Seattle, Tacoma, Olympia, Vancouver) subsidize the east. That's socialist redistribution. That might be something to be angry about.

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2021, 12:22:15 PM »
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You can't get much more capitalist than not charging taxes on income.

Charging or not charging taxes has nothing to do with the definition of capitalism.

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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2021, 12:40:02 PM »
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You can't get much more capitalist than not charging taxes on income.

Charging or not charging taxes has nothing to do with the definition of capitalism.

Thank you for joining, Goodtryer.

This is simply a policy that supports capital accumulation, by capitalists, as I described. It is "free market" by definition, in two senses: no charge to be in the market, no interference in the market. Right wing scholars and libertarians -- and you should know this -- argue that taxes interfere with capitalism. Thus while it may not be central to a specific definition of capitalism it is certainly part of the conversation. And, as I wrote, it is a reason the capitalists of Washington State live there and house their businesses there. Googling the definition of capitalism might not get you much about taxes.

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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2021, 12:55:19 PM »
Goalposts shifted!

That was easy.

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Googling the definition of capitalism might not get you much about taxes.

I wonder if that's because they are two different things. The only reason it's part of the conversation is you conflating the ideas.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2021, 01:10:19 PM »
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private property is abolished. You paying taxes on your house -- your private property -- is contrary to the core of communism

It seems the Communist Party USA disagrees with your definition of property under communism.

Q: The father of communism Karl Marx says in his Manifesto of the Communist Party "In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property." People are not going to be handing over their private property voluntarily to the communists. This will only happen at gun point once the communists are in power. So why do you say that communism is not violent ? “Political power grows out of the barrel of the gun...” ― A quote from Mao Zedong the father of communist China.
A: Thanks for writing in.  The phrase from Marx that you cite has been twisted and misinterpreted to serve the ends of the ruling class. The private property that Marx is talking about is private ownership of things like factories, banks, and railroads, which allow their owners to make money from the work of other people.  He has (and we have) no problem with working people accumulating  the sort of stuff needed for a comfortable life.  In fact, making life better for working people is what we're all about.  As Marx says, under capitalism, "private property has already been abolished for nine-tenths of the population." In other words, as long as the economy is run by a few wealthy people in their own interest, the working class won't be able to achieve prosperity.


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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2021, 01:24:25 PM »
Goodtryer, if you have something to add about Seattle and the discussion here, please contibute.

If you want to troll as usual, please consider that others here are interested in a conversation which is, unless you are from Seattle, likely over your head, as are, apparently, some of the points being made.

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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2021, 01:35:37 PM »
Yep, trolling by shining light on incorrect definitions. I guess understanding your poor use of language in topics such as capitalism, free markets, and communism really is above my head...

But do continue educating us on what every libertarian should know, or why every capitalist in Washington does what they do, or why the "free market" causes housing prices to go up, or why getting taxed more on your property is some kind of victory.

One would think it would be a burden to know everything about everything but some do it with such panache.
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2021, 06:18:57 PM »
 Hey, wasn't that really cool when those baseball players came walking out of the cornfield? It was a pretty good game too.
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2021, 06:20:14 PM »
 Mods, I won't mind if you want to delete this. I'm done anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2021, 07:43:01 PM »
Hey, wasn't that really cool when those baseball players came walking out of the cornfield? It was a pretty good game too.
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